Scott Bush & Relentless Autosports: Exposing the Hype, Lies, and Failure
"You have to put the car on jacks to install it".....Really?....Seriously?....Not to be mean but some of those G guys are really gullible. Thats pretty bad if you believe that for a strut bar install.
BTW not all G owners are morons but we sure do have a lot of them over there
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and here it is, the interview everyone has been waiting for:
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This PM came in from someone who wishes to remain anonymous.
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" I'm surprised no one has noticed the strut bar on driver... people have been waiting many months for it and now that some are receiving they are having trouble installing - the bar doesn’t fit right... but I haven’t seen anyone call foul (yet)
Here's the thread:
http://g35driver.com/forums/brakes-s...ot-vrt-41.html
The last few pages have the most info on bad fitment... at first it seemed like they weren’t installing them correctly - but now it seems it might be a design flaw
"
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" I'm surprised no one has noticed the strut bar on driver... people have been waiting many months for it and now that some are receiving they are having trouble installing - the bar doesn’t fit right... but I haven’t seen anyone call foul (yet)
Here's the thread:
http://g35driver.com/forums/brakes-s...ot-vrt-41.html
The last few pages have the most info on bad fitment... at first it seemed like they weren’t installing them correctly - but now it seems it might be a design flaw
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I see the huggers are hanging on for life...
LULZ at
(AKA Lawchick) and 
(AKA Canadian) hugging for dear life!!!
This gem from Lawchick in post #604 made me
and 
Originally Posted by Lawchick
Installation is kind of intensive for a strut tower bar.
I wish I wasn't on miserable user status (the unofficial ban) over there so I could post a response to that on g35driver.
I would post, "
Ummm... NO. Installation of a strut tower bar IS NOT normally intensive. Installation of an RA stut tower bar with poor fitment IS apparently intensive.
"
Last edited by RudeG_v2.0; Mar 25, 2009 at 07:48 AM.
funny. this "genius" even admitted that it didn't fit right for him
....i mean, i understand some mods can be friends with vendors, but candian doesnt have any shame in running customer service as a moderator.
Originally Posted by canadian
The car has to be up on jackstands in order for it to give a good match. You can't do it while it is on the ground. This is directly from Scott, as I just saw him today and we talked about some stuff. I have to get a new bracket made for mine as it doesn't fit with one of my pipes.
Originally Posted by viceversa
I got my bar installed today, i was able to get the cross bar in by bending it just enough using a crescent wrench in order to fit the other bolt it
Originally Posted by xx7sephiroth7xx
Well, to be honest, I'm very close to being totally p!ssed about how this bar turned out.
This might be sort of a rant-post, but please, bear with me. Please consider that I am very difficult to anger; in fact, I'm pretty sure I had a very positive attitude towards this whole group buy and how long it took for Scott to get these things out. Also, take note of the time I am writing this; I have not gotten any sleep, tonight, yet.
My friend and I tried installing this bar earlier tonight. Besides being a little out of the ordinary for a strut tower bar installation (this bar is supposed to be excellent, so it's understandable), it was a pretty uneventful install up until I finally had to close my hood.
Hell, I have a Stillen intake kit and my friend figured out a way to fit everything so the only thing we had to do to the heat shield was drill another hole through [no other cutting required]. No crescent wrench, none of that ****.
However, once it came to shutting my hood, it looks just like the pictures that viceversa posted up. We took off the "shield" on the underside of the hood [the name of it escapes me at the moment, but it has "Advanced Front Midship" on it]. Still, the hood would not close without the passenger side bracket hitting the hood. Every spot where viceversa's hood is rubbing is the same with mine
Yes, I called Scott at 12 midnight pacific time. Yes, he offered for me to send back this bracket and send me a new one.
My friend and I tried turning the bar different ways. It actually fits, too, upside down with no interference from the hood [it closes]. However, the bar literally sits on the engine, sandwiching the harness wires in the middle. A piece of the plenum touches the bar in this position, and my friend and I even tried dremeling out part of the plenum that touches (didn't dremel the bar) so that I had about a hair's width of room. No go, still, since the entire car shakes in sync with the engine in this position.
The part that ticks me off is that we all paid half a grand for this bar, but it doesn't fit. Yes, Scott told me about how each car is different, but then why doesn't this problem happen with other strut tower bars on the market? Scott tells me that I'm #3 out of 15 that have complained about this problem. I don't think he thinks I realize that not everyone has gotten a chance to install theirs yet. I'm sure after waiting this long for these bars and the vastly positive reviews, they'd post up the difference it made to their cars. And, yes, I realize that some people have successfully installed their bars without any problems.
I guess the part that angers me the most is that I'll have to wait until summer time [late late May] so I can attempt to install this bar again since I'm going to school in NorCal, but my car stays in SoCal. Right now, I'm home for spring break.
/endRant
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This might be sort of a rant-post, but please, bear with me. Please consider that I am very difficult to anger; in fact, I'm pretty sure I had a very positive attitude towards this whole group buy and how long it took for Scott to get these things out. Also, take note of the time I am writing this; I have not gotten any sleep, tonight, yet.
My friend and I tried installing this bar earlier tonight. Besides being a little out of the ordinary for a strut tower bar installation (this bar is supposed to be excellent, so it's understandable), it was a pretty uneventful install up until I finally had to close my hood.
Hell, I have a Stillen intake kit and my friend figured out a way to fit everything so the only thing we had to do to the heat shield was drill another hole through [no other cutting required]. No crescent wrench, none of that ****.
However, once it came to shutting my hood, it looks just like the pictures that viceversa posted up. We took off the "shield" on the underside of the hood [the name of it escapes me at the moment, but it has "Advanced Front Midship" on it]. Still, the hood would not close without the passenger side bracket hitting the hood. Every spot where viceversa's hood is rubbing is the same with mine
Yes, I called Scott at 12 midnight pacific time. Yes, he offered for me to send back this bracket and send me a new one.
My friend and I tried turning the bar different ways. It actually fits, too, upside down with no interference from the hood [it closes]. However, the bar literally sits on the engine, sandwiching the harness wires in the middle. A piece of the plenum touches the bar in this position, and my friend and I even tried dremeling out part of the plenum that touches (didn't dremel the bar) so that I had about a hair's width of room. No go, still, since the entire car shakes in sync with the engine in this position.
The part that ticks me off is that we all paid half a grand for this bar, but it doesn't fit. Yes, Scott told me about how each car is different, but then why doesn't this problem happen with other strut tower bars on the market? Scott tells me that I'm #3 out of 15 that have complained about this problem. I don't think he thinks I realize that not everyone has gotten a chance to install theirs yet. I'm sure after waiting this long for these bars and the vastly positive reviews, they'd post up the difference it made to their cars. And, yes, I realize that some people have successfully installed their bars without any problems.
I guess the part that angers me the most is that I'll have to wait until summer time [late late May] so I can attempt to install this bar again since I'm going to school in NorCal, but my car stays in SoCal. Right now, I'm home for spring break.
/endRant
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Last edited by IIQuickSilverII; Mar 25, 2009 at 08:02 AM.
and here it is, the interview everyone has been waiting for:
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and here it is, the interview everyone has been waiting for:
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FAWKING HILARIOUS!!!BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
and here it is, the interview everyone has been waiting for:
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oh shlt, its poopy fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lawchic gets 
again
wtf kind of strut tower brace is that!!! Should be called strut tower to various undercarriage point puzzle bar! I have added my two abraham lincolns on that thread. My flame suit is on and prepared to stay in the kitchen. : )
This PM came in from someone who wishes to remain anonymous.
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" I'm surprised no one has noticed the strut bar on driver... people have been waiting many months for it and now that some are receiving they are having trouble installing - the bar doesn’t fit right... but I haven’t seen anyone call foul (yet)
Here's the thread:
http://g35driver.com/forums/brakes-s...ot-vrt-41.html
The last few pages have the most info on bad fitment... at first it seemed like they weren’t installing them correctly - but now it seems it might be a design flaw "
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" I'm surprised no one has noticed the strut bar on driver... people have been waiting many months for it and now that some are receiving they are having trouble installing - the bar doesn’t fit right... but I haven’t seen anyone call foul (yet)
Here's the thread:
http://g35driver.com/forums/brakes-s...ot-vrt-41.html
The last few pages have the most info on bad fitment... at first it seemed like they weren’t installing them correctly - but now it seems it might be a design flaw
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I've been wanting to get the ARC bar for my car - any vendors have one in stock at a good price???
This bar was supposedly designed around the JWT TT kit. I'm glad I had the FP crew to help deal with getting it to fit properly with the JWT kit. They shaved off metal from both brackets to get proper clearance to the hood and piping. I still have some rubbing on the hoodliner and charge pipe but I've worked around that.
The good points are the bracing across 2 planes and not having to remove the strut bar to remove the plenum.
This new version looked to be version 2 and should have been problem free - clearly there wasn't enough R&D put into it. Perhaps Scott did not have cars to test on?