Semi-generic twin-turbo kit?
02-06-2009, 10:55 AM
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Oh, I agree with you guys, my post was indeed half assed, and I apologize. Maybe I overreacted a bit, but I still stand by what I say, in terms of people not helping, etc.
Also, I never made the claim that I "knew more than everyone". I said probably, and half of the keyboard warriors in this thread. Based on those numbers, I am only claiming to be more knowledgeable than 3 people. :-P
Next time I'll be sure to assemble a research team, and draft up multiple versions off my thread, and run them by a technical writer, to ensure it is of the upmost quality.
Also, I never made the claim that I "knew more than everyone". I said probably, and half of the keyboard warriors in this thread. Based on those numbers, I am only claiming to be more knowledgeable than 3 people. :-P
Next time I'll be sure to assemble a research team, and draft up multiple versions off my thread, and run them by a technical writer, to ensure it is of the upmost quality.
02-06-2009, 11:49 AM
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Oh, I agree with you guys, my post was indeed half assed, and I apologize. Maybe I overreacted a bit, but I still stand by what I say, in terms of people not helping, etc.
Also, I never made the claim that I "knew more than everyone". I said probably, and half of the keyboard warriors in this thread. Based on those numbers, I am only claiming to be more knowledgeable than 3 people. :-P
Next time I'll be sure to assemble a research team, and draft up multiple versions off my thread, and run them by a technical writer, to ensure it is of the upmost quality.
Also, I never made the claim that I "knew more than everyone". I said probably, and half of the keyboard warriors in this thread. Based on those numbers, I am only claiming to be more knowledgeable than 3 people. :-P
Next time I'll be sure to assemble a research team, and draft up multiple versions off my thread, and run them by a technical writer, to ensure it is of the upmost quality.
also the greddy kit already comes with td05/18g turbos. so whats the point in going down to 18g? im guessing your thinking of getting some used evo turbos and slapping it on?
02-06-2009, 12:26 PM
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Oh, I agree with you guys, my post was indeed half assed, and I apologize. Maybe I overreacted a bit, but I still stand by what I say, in terms of people not helping, etc.
Also, I never made the claim that I "knew more than everyone". I said probably, and half of the keyboard warriors in this thread. Based on those numbers, I am only claiming to be more knowledgeable than 3 people. :-P
Next time I'll be sure to assemble a research team, and draft up multiple versions off my thread, and run them by a technical writer, to ensure it is of the upmost quality.
Also, I never made the claim that I "knew more than everyone". I said probably, and half of the keyboard warriors in this thread. Based on those numbers, I am only claiming to be more knowledgeable than 3 people. :-P
Next time I'll be sure to assemble a research team, and draft up multiple versions off my thread, and run them by a technical writer, to ensure it is of the upmost quality.
And probably, and half really don't matter. Because every reader thinks they are a 'probably' and one of the 'half'.
Good luck and if I may: just buy a Greddy TT kit and be done with it.
02-06-2009, 12:33 PM
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I don't have a built engine, so I would just like to shoot for ~400whp, and I think it could be done with something that would run more efficienty at that power level than an 18g. I'm willing to bet it could be done with 14b's, really, though honestly I haven't dived into comparing compression maps on the various turbos, related to CFM requirements for the power level. Working under an assumption here :-P.
To be honest, the main factor is simply cost, anyway. I would absolutely love to drop $5k on a kit, but its hard to justify, especially when gazillions of people are getting laid off. I'm in a pretty good place for now, but you never know, so just playing it safe a bit.
02-06-2009, 01:15 PM
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if u need to skimp that much, u r not financially ready to FI a NA car. plain and simple.
5g is barely enough for a used kit with no ems or fuel.
just buy a turbonetics kits for 3000$ and call it a day. you can run that at 400 hp no problem and the install is easy.
5g is barely enough for a used kit with no ems or fuel.
just buy a turbonetics kits for 3000$ and call it a day. you can run that at 400 hp no problem and the install is easy.
02-06-2009, 02:03 PM
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Yeah, I mean, ideally what I would like to do is get all the piping/hardware to use whatever td05's I like, and then slap on some 16g's.
I don't have a built engine, so I would just like to shoot for ~400whp, and I think it could be done with something that would run more efficienty at that power level than an 18g. I'm willing to bet it could be done with 14b's, really, though honestly I haven't dived into comparing compression maps on the various turbos, related to CFM requirements for the power level. Working under an assumption here :-P.
To be honest, the main factor is simply cost, anyway. I would absolutely love to drop $5k on a kit, but its hard to justify, especially when gazillions of people are getting laid off. I'm in a pretty good place for now, but you never know, so just playing it safe a bit.
I don't have a built engine, so I would just like to shoot for ~400whp, and I think it could be done with something that would run more efficienty at that power level than an 18g. I'm willing to bet it could be done with 14b's, really, though honestly I haven't dived into comparing compression maps on the various turbos, related to CFM requirements for the power level. Working under an assumption here :-P.
To be honest, the main factor is simply cost, anyway. I would absolutely love to drop $5k on a kit, but its hard to justify, especially when gazillions of people are getting laid off. I'm in a pretty good place for now, but you never know, so just playing it safe a bit.
02-06-2009, 02:31 PM
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If you can't afford a used kit.. you can't afford the maintenance.. and you can't afford a new motor in the possiblity of your motor blowing..
motors blow anywhere from 310 whp to 500 whp.. you are not exempt to your motor blowing by running only 400 whp.. if your motor is weak.. your motor is weak and if you can't afford to replace it or don't have other options, then FI isn't the current option for you.
motors blow anywhere from 310 whp to 500 whp.. you are not exempt to your motor blowing by running only 400 whp.. if your motor is weak.. your motor is weak and if you can't afford to replace it or don't have other options, then FI isn't the current option for you.
02-06-2009, 02:38 PM
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If you can't afford a used kit.. you can't afford the maintenance.. and you can't afford a new motor in the possiblity of your motor blowing..
motors blow anywhere from 310 whp to 500 whp.. you are not exempt to your motor blowing by running only 400 whp.. if your motor is weak.. your motor is weak and if you can't afford to replace it or don't have other options, then FI isn't the current option for you.
motors blow anywhere from 310 whp to 500 whp.. you are not exempt to your motor blowing by running only 400 whp.. if your motor is weak.. your motor is weak and if you can't afford to replace it or don't have other options, then FI isn't the current option for you.
02-06-2009, 03:48 PM
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Just have Greddy verify that the turbo you have is a direct bolt up to the kit you want. I realize this may have been one of your original questions, but we here in F/I make it a habit of shying away from going smaller, now larger would have been a different story
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02-06-2009, 03:57 PM
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If you can't afford a used kit.. you can't afford the maintenance.. and you can't afford a new motor in the possiblity of your motor blowing..
motors blow anywhere from 310 whp to 500 whp.. you are not exempt to your motor blowing by running only 400 whp.. if your motor is weak.. your motor is weak and if you can't afford to replace it or don't have other options, then FI isn't the current option for you.
motors blow anywhere from 310 whp to 500 whp.. you are not exempt to your motor blowing by running only 400 whp.. if your motor is weak.. your motor is weak and if you can't afford to replace it or don't have other options, then FI isn't the current option for you.
but if you cant afford a used kit then your done because if you cant buy the turbo kit then you cant buy the clutch, or the gauges, or fuel return.
02-07-2009, 02:37 PM
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I'm pretty sure the 3 bolt tdo5 flange is propriatary to Greddy.. I have never seen other hot sides that will bolt up. You need to look more into the t25 flange options... All other side mount tt kits for this car are t25. The only people selling only manifolds are for low mount turbos with t3 flange. Gtm or jwt are you only shot in hell at cast manifolds that put the turbos up there, and I doubt either of them will sell only manifolds... There is no money in selling a cast manifold that is worth $200 each.. They make them specifically so they can sell entire kits which can be profitable
02-07-2009, 03:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure the 3 bolt tdo5 flange is propriatary to Greddy.. I have never seen other hot sides that will bolt up. You need to look more into the t25 flange options... All other side mount tt kits for this car are t25. The only people selling only manifolds are for low mount turbos with t3 flange. Gtm or jwt are you only shot in hell at cast manifolds that put the turbos up there, and I doubt either of them will sell only manifolds... There is no money in selling a cast manifold that is worth $200 each.. They make them specifically so they can sell entire kits which can be profitable
I thought it was just a standard Mitsubishi flange pattern. I found Precision Turbo's which use the Mitsubishi flange pattern (e.g. M/N 5031RB TMH8-31) which are BB, as well as oil/water cooled. I thought those would mate to the Greddy exhaust manifolds. I even talked to Precision and the guy I talked to thought they could be used with the Greddy manifolds. If not, major Bummer.
GTM now lists their exhaust manifolds for sale, P/N SKU17185. They are $910 each. I think they just lowered the price on them. The last time I looked, I think they were closer to $1,000 each, but I could be wrong.
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02-07-2009, 04:27 PM
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Hah, I came back to this thread to ask exactly that -- if the td05 greddy's are REAL td05s, as I remembered them having a habit of making custom exhaust flanges. (Greddy still hasn't replied to my e-mail on this topic, unfortunately... hopefully they don't just send me pictures of dudes on fire...).
Thanks for more great info, guys.
This does make me wonder how well a kit would sell, if it were basically "BYOT". Something that were sort of a TD05 starter-kit... manifolds, plumbing, etc, and you supply your own 16gs (which may need to be "reclocked", etc) and electronics. I mean, if it were considerably cheaper, think of how many people could end up blowing their own motors! Good times! Woo!
Thanks for more great info, guys.
This does make me wonder how well a kit would sell, if it were basically "BYOT". Something that were sort of a TD05 starter-kit... manifolds, plumbing, etc, and you supply your own 16gs (which may need to be "reclocked", etc) and electronics. I mean, if it were considerably cheaper, think of how many people could end up blowing their own motors! Good times! Woo!
