I'm saving $$, help me choose
This is great!
Ok, so I guess nitrous is out of the question. So were looking at a single turbo and possibly twins if its not too expensive.
I figure that I can get me a single/twin turbo set-up with low boost to keep the stock motor from blowing. I don't drive like a manic, but once in a while i will step on it, like when I'm racing or so.
I'm thinking that a turbo set-up, whether single or twin, would give me the option to go higher than 400whp once I have the money to build the motor. Building the motor would be as time goes on (a little part here and there as the year goes by).
How about that?
---keep 'em coming!
Ok, so I guess nitrous is out of the question. So were looking at a single turbo and possibly twins if its not too expensive.
I figure that I can get me a single/twin turbo set-up with low boost to keep the stock motor from blowing. I don't drive like a manic, but once in a while i will step on it, like when I'm racing or so.
I'm thinking that a turbo set-up, whether single or twin, would give me the option to go higher than 400whp once I have the money to build the motor. Building the motor would be as time goes on (a little part here and there as the year goes by).
How about that?
---keep 'em coming!
Ah. Since I 've been researching this I found a thread (that I can't find anymore) that was about going FI on a stock motor. If my memory serves me right, the motors that blew were mostly motors on turbos.
I don't remember if the boost on each one was set high.
Anything to ease my mind?
I don't remember if the boost on each one was set high.Anything to ease my mind?
Yeah, many of the early kits (turbos) that you will see had bad results-because they are polled from back in the day. The community has come a long way. Greddy as a perfect example offered their kits without a standard (ignition harness was optional) solution for the timing on these engines. Most went boom shortly thereafter. Even the weaksauce Stillen kit has blown motors.
Am I on the right track?

How about cost? Twins should be more expensive than single turbos right? Now, were talking about putting them in a stock engine (except for the minor mods I had on my first post) with low boost for now. And later on as I build the motor start kicking the boost up a notch.
There is no clear-cut answer to that.
It all comes down to the setup you do, and the type of tracks you'll be on.
If you know you are just going to be doing track days at a few specific tracks and what a setup for those then go for that.
I know I have a twin setup that has a very linear power when in boost due to the relatively quick spool (thank you stock cams), but falls off more at high rpm (damn stock cams).
But I don't think there is any turbo setup that you will find a hit when the boost comes on. Your only hope to avoid that is to go with tiny turbos that spool instantly, but then you will hurt power output potential.
Figure out what you want and then build.
tom
It all comes down to the setup you do, and the type of tracks you'll be on.
If you know you are just going to be doing track days at a few specific tracks and what a setup for those then go for that.
I know I have a twin setup that has a very linear power when in boost due to the relatively quick spool (thank you stock cams), but falls off more at high rpm (damn stock cams).
But I don't think there is any turbo setup that you will find a hit when the boost comes on. Your only hope to avoid that is to go with tiny turbos that spool instantly, but then you will hurt power output potential.
Figure out what you want and then build.
tom
Ok but why? I read a thread somewhere else that mentioned something about power delivery being a lot more smoother with the twins as opposed to the single which is a like a big "hit" all of a sudden.
Am I on the right track?
How about cost? Twins should be more expensive than single turbos right? Now, were talking about putting them in a stock engine (except for the minor mods I had on my first post) with low boost for now. And later on as I build the motor start kicking the boost up a notch.
Am I on the right track?

How about cost? Twins should be more expensive than single turbos right? Now, were talking about putting them in a stock engine (except for the minor mods I had on my first post) with low boost for now. And later on as I build the motor start kicking the boost up a notch.

Ok but why? I read a thread somewhere else that mentioned something about power delivery being a lot more smoother with the twins as opposed to the single which is a like a big "hit" all of a sudden.
Am I on the right track?
How about cost? Twins should be more expensive than single turbos right? Now, were talking about putting them in a stock engine (except for the minor mods I had on my first post) with low boost for now. And later on as I build the motor start kicking the boost up a notch.
Am I on the right track?

How about cost? Twins should be more expensive than single turbos right? Now, were talking about putting them in a stock engine (except for the minor mods I had on my first post) with low boost for now. And later on as I build the motor start kicking the boost up a notch.

Do the Greddy twins and you wont be sorry even at low boost.I had the stillen roots type s/c since june 2003 and went thru all the stages to stage 4.The difference between the stillen stage4 and the low boost greddy twins was like night and day........it was just unbelieveable.
But with a single turbo im still capable of big gains with supporting mods right? In the end 600wph will probably be my max. I still gotta keep in mind that its my daily driver. Also, a lot of people say twins but why?
because if you have twins, you could gain power easily, for example the gtm kit : if you decided you want more power build your engine and tranny, a good fuel system and a good tune and your ready with big power, boost is addicting!!
if you decided to go with a S/c @ 450whp, one day you WILL want more power so you have to uninstall the S/c, buy a tt kit , and install it ,, so why bother all that because one day youll want more power
go with a TT kit at low boost, a good set of injectors, a good EMS (haltech FTW) it will be costy, but your work is good and right, so what im saying is save a good ammount of money and do it good and right from the first time,
dont forget to save money for electronics(gauges, wideband, turbo timer, boost controller)
BTW alot of guys had S/c's and ended up with TT build's
after a period of time, build your engine and boost up
if you decided to go with a S/c @ 450whp, one day you WILL want more power so you have to uninstall the S/c, buy a tt kit , and install it ,, so why bother all that because one day youll want more power
go with a TT kit at low boost, a good set of injectors, a good EMS (haltech FTW) it will be costy, but your work is good and right, so what im saying is save a good ammount of money and do it good and right from the first time,
dont forget to save money for electronics(gauges, wideband, turbo timer, boost controller)
BTW alot of guys had S/c's and ended up with TT build's
after a period of time, build your engine and boost up
Your paying money either ways, so why dont u pay the bit extra and call it a day ,, btw gtm stage 1 tuner kit is $5675 ,, Used Utec + map sensor $600,, good injectors $600 , so you have the TT kit and ems and injectors for under $7k,
The rest depends on what electronics you want? what clutch? do you want to change the radaitor? oil cooler? tranny cooler and VB upgrade (5AT)?
but talking about the kit, its $5675 only ..
The rest depends on what electronics you want? what clutch? do you want to change the radaitor? oil cooler? tranny cooler and VB upgrade (5AT)?
but talking about the kit, its $5675 only ..
No used parts remember? Ether way im liking what im reading about the powerlab single turbo kit. I figure low boost on my stock engine will still give me 400whp. One thing i didnt think about, what about the clutch? How does the stock clutch hold up in relation to hp?
*edit: i looked up the clutch issue. 350-400whp max on stock clutch.
*edit: i looked up the clutch issue. 350-400whp max on stock clutch.
Last edited by SGS350Z; Apr 29, 2009 at 10:39 PM.
Another reason tt might not be for me. I came across some thread that stated that tt boosts in lower rpms than single so i would be boosting more often under normal driving conditions, which would prob kill my mpg.
If this is even a remote concern then just stay N/A and call it a day. If you can't afford gas, you can't even come close to affording F/I.
Agreed,
Cruising around on highway at 60mph I get good mpg (as addressed in 1000000000 other threads).
City driving, um well....does better than a vortec at least lol.
t
Cruising around on highway at 60mph I get good mpg (as addressed in 1000000000 other threads).
City driving, um well....does better than a vortec at least lol.
t



