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Old Sep 21, 2003 | 10:57 PM
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What ever happened to the Dreamworkes racing twin screw supercharger application. Last I heard was that Jimster was getting it prototyped on his car. Just wondering if there are any updates or if the project is dead. Thanks.
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Old Sep 21, 2003 | 11:07 PM
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That whole deal seemed a little fishy. Never heard anything else about it though. Does seem odd that we haven't heard any progress reports.
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 02:22 AM
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"What was the best thing before sliced bread?"

sliced bread is the best thing since pants with pockets!!!!
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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choro44,
yes the project is still progressing and its progressing quite nicely. i got my car back 3 weeks ago after 4 months of design development for the supercharger. I have seen the first stages of design with 3-D CADD computer modeling images though i believe there have been changes and improvements since my first viewing awhile ago. My car's engine bay was computer modeled..no tinkering with parts to see if they would fit under the hood.

it is quite amazing the level of detail and development that has gone with this project. this is not a project where you take a blower, look for where it will fit, shove it in to see if you're right, and then make some mounting brackets and pulleys. this is a from-the-ground-up design...it is an integrated design as if it was always part of the engine. it will fit under the stock hood and my understanding is that it will be water-to-air intercooled and it will have a bypass valve to redirect charge air. the design is to be upgradeable...in other words the street legal kit can be converted into a high output race-only setup as long as you have fortified other areas of the motor along with fuel delivery.

any other details (like fuel management and specific output) are unbeknownst to me. they'll take care of that when the time comes.

some people have been suspicious and maybe rightly so about the project but once the product rolls out, i think a lot of fears will be laid to rest. the development guys have experience in F1 and Champ cars as engine designers/builders for manufacturers...you won't find a grease monkey fresh outta high school auto shop who spent his days installing bolt-on exhausts in this operation.

i'm sure there will be updates from DreamWorkes Racing as the project progresses to rollout.
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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Sounds like this will be competition for ATI. The big question is.....How much $$$ ?
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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Jimster What is the Approximate release date? Do you have the charger on your car now? Driving impressions?
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by sschmuve
Sounds like this will be competition for ATI. The big question is.....How much $$$ ?
ATI has A LOT of competition coming....as far as FI...they just happens to be the first ones to come out w/ a FI kit w/ appealing #'s
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by CHORO44
Jimster What is the Approximate release date? Do you have the charger on your car now? Driving impressions?
I do not have it installed. The design was sent out for prototype manufacture when I got my car back. I would expect another month or so before it is installed for fitment and performance testing. I don't know the schedule for introduction to the public. You would have to ask DreamWorkes Racing...I just lent them my car.
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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it took 4 monthes to take measurements?

you mean they didnt build anything at all??
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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LOL, no kidding. I could design and build a twin turbo setup myself in that amount of time if I had the money and the dedication. Hopefully they did some testing on the engine air flow characteristics while they were at it. Seems like an awful long time to CAD an engine bay.
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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they could've just came up with one design so that it would fit and built it and that would be that a la stillen, therefore requiring a hood scoop.

small example...it took these guys a week to design the bypass valve.

this design isn't taking an eaton blower and designing brackets. I don't have to nor will i defend their methods and procedures..there are companies who develop and there are others would rather get the jump on others and use customer cars as test mules for data. my car will get a production unit which will be used for CARB certification. another car from the company is being brought in for performance testing.

I dare say i would trust the experience of the engine designer from Ilmor Engineering/Mclaren F1 and Toyota CART program over anyone from a message board.
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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Dude, I'm not baggin on your setup, I'm sure they're doing a great job, just seems like a long time to design a setup. Forced Induction, believe it or not, is not really that complicated. I've built a couple of custom turbo setups for cars before both blow through and old school draw through carburated setups. Designing an SC would be even easier because there's a lot less calculations involved.

Anyways, good for you, I'm sure they're doing a great job and at least you'll get a free SC out of the deal.
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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nah...im not mad but i don't think its fair to assess a company by how much time they use. it did take a long time and i know of some of the design changes that they made which impressed upon me the idea that if they could do something a bit better it was worth it for them to make those changes and they were grateful that i could afford to not have my car for that long which gave them the time to make revisions.

They did fabricate fitment pieces which was part of the design/development. i wish i could explain it better without breaking a promise about keeping things under wrap until they're ready but the 3-D CADD models of the blower unit just blew me away...the time that i saw a preliminary design/model the only things they appeared to use from the Eaton roots blower were the internals...everything else is designed/developed and manufactured in-house as an integrated whole...nothing extraneous for the sake of making one portion work between induction, compression, intercooling, and bypass.

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I do not know if this is the same shop you are taking about.

http://www.dreamworkes.com/about.ivnu


About Us:

With over 15 years in racing, service and product development; Dream Workes has brought to the automotive enthusiast a new high performance product line for Nissan cars and SUV’s.
Starting with the new 350Z car Dream Works has developed an aqua-cooled supercharger kit legal for all 50 states including CARB certification. Orders can be placed and shipping should begin within 90 days. This supercharger kit is also available for the 3.5L Maxima, Altima, Murano, Infinity G35, I35, FX35 as well as the Japanese versions.
Lets not forget the ever popular sport compact enthusiast. Dream Workes aqua-cooled turbo charger kits are also available for the 2.5L Sentra SER, Spec V and Altima. Orders can be placed for availability within approximately 90 days.
All aqua cooled supercharger and aqua cooled turbocharger kits are 50 state legal and come with a 3 year / 36,000 mile Power Train Warranty that supersedes factory warranty.
Orders can be placed through an authorized Nissan/Infinity dealer, direct from Dream Workes or through an authorized Dream Workes retailer or installation center.
dreamworkesracing.com/
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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Here is link to (another) DWorkes site.

This site don't tell you anything.


http://dreamworkesracing.com/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi?&
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:50 PM
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Considering that Jimster is from Anaheim and those sites depict a company in the Bronx, NY.. I doubt it.
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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ok in the defense of the aftermarket industry.

A lot of companies outsource development of products. Some companies are just operating entities and have other engineering companies build things for them.

NISMO CAI for example. Nissan had AEM make them a CAI.

Dreamworkes has contracted that development racing company here in long beach to build a supercharger.

This is no different for you techies for example for Texas Instruments to build a chip for Sun Microsystems for example.

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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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E from Dream Workes

Hello, and thanks for your interest in our super-charger for the 350Z/G35. The charger is based on a 90 Eaton charger. We have redesigned the entire intake manafold, combining the charger and the licqued cooled inter-coolers into one casting, so it fits under your hood. The kit comes with everything you need for installation, including an ECU upgrade. The kit comes with a 3 year 36000 mile powertrain warranty. Your car will be able to be serviced at any Nissan Dealership, covered under warranty. Price will be $6,200 for the kit with warranty. We will be taking pre-orders in about two weeks and we will offer a 10% discount on all pre-orders. Let me know if you need more info. We will have more info available at our website www.dreamworkesracing.com shortly.

Thanks,
DREAM WORKES RACING
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The idea of integrating the intake manifold and the SC together is a much better idea than the bolt on/pully approach of Stillen etc. We don't lose the brace on this design. I hope Nissan is watching and learning.

I love the idea of the 36,000 mile warranty on powertrain. I think you have a winning combination if the price was about $2,000 less.

How much hp are we talking about on this set up DREAM WORKES RACING?

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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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the stillen SC replaced the intake manifold as well... its nearly the same type of supercharger they are both using.
roots/eaton.. both are screw(-ish) type SCs...
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