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Old 09-29-2003 | 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by ZainT
I already have the V3 hood so not much I can do now... I will just wait til i feel like changing the hood to get the SC, unless one comes up that isn't sitting directly ontop of the engine.

However, I am getting the Borla exhaust system including the headers. Since I will not be getting a SC anytime soon, which would be recomended to get. I heard that AEM goes great with Borla exhausts. Or maybe I am just clueless to the fact that different brand of CAI's will interfere with different brand of exhausts. Any advice or teachings?

Thanks again.
To my knowledge, stillen and veilside are the only sc's that are out/in development which will require a new hood. If you have the money, I would suggest getting an ati procharger right now, they are a little under $5k (dependant on where your look), don't require a new hood and have been producing 55-60% more power (most are getting 355-360 hp to the wheels, and it's been said that if you buy the optional pulley, it can produce up to 400 whp). You could just wait for comptech and all the other sc's coming out though...
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Old 09-29-2003 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
hey man, i know where you're coming from, i also like veilside products and i know of their capabilities, but ricky and peptidbond is right, their latest aero parts are of low standards.
It’s true their 350z kits have been substandard Ill attest to that.

I've had nothing but problems from the get go with my veilside 1 front lip and rear cracking. Also my version 1 wing was warped.

Veilside does put out good products and their styling is nice for other vehicles. Unfortunately their products have fallen short for the 350Z.

Veilside should just admit the fact they had some flaws instead of blaming them the installers and their customers. They are a big company and I think because of that they are now too big for their britches.

They should also take an example from Stillen in their customer service. Stillen admitted the fact that their wing was flawed and they replaced the part and even reimbursed their customers for their install.

If more companies did this the import industry it would be a better place. Companies should always take care of their customers to the highest degree if there’s a flaw in their products hands down.

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Old 09-29-2003 | 08:28 PM
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Rather surprised to hear that.
Perhaps you should write to Veilside from their homepage.

Originally posted by Red6
It’s true their 350z kits have been substandard Ill attest to that.

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If more companies did this the import industry it would be a better place. Companies should always take care of their customers to the highest degree if there’s a flaw in their products hands down.
Old 09-30-2003 | 02:15 AM
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I spoke with Veilside again today.

Believe it or not they are now developing an AIR suspension kit for the 350Z. They said that the sus can even withstand racetrack use. For that reason the test drive must be postponed to earliest mid - end of October.

In addition they said that the SC kit will be available only in the end of December, due to supplying difficulties.

They also said that they are really busy now dealing with massive orders for Gull wing doors (for 350Z plus other cars).

Well, guess all I can do now is wait patiently...
Old 09-30-2003 | 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
That site steals a lot of pics, and they don't give credit either.
NO SH*T!? half of the pics posted here for some strange reason ended up at that website and I just learned about this too.
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I'm very confused as to why you are complaining about the service. The wing in question was purchased over 6 months ago. Who's to say if it really was a flaw in the Veilside part? It's been 6 months, it could have been your body shop, there is no evidence to support that it's a flaw in the Veilside part. If you read the Veilside return policy, a standard return is within 30 days of receiving the item. Also, the item can not be worked on by a body shop. The reason is this: once the item has been worked on, who's to say that it wasn't mishandled? I've seen flawed work from top notch body shops, everyone is human, so you can not use that as an excuse. If the wing was defective when you got it, why do you expect paint to be reimbursed? If you knew it was warped before you painted it, and you claim that you did, then why did you go ahead and paint it? That was your choice. As far I'm concerned you are being offered a kind gesture to be able to exchange an item that is 1) painted and worked on and 2) 5 months too late.

What I don?ft understand is I give you the good will to help you out even though you are trying to return something used for 6 months. I've even offered to come in during my weekend on my own personal time to give you the replacement wing. In return, all you've done is spread your anti-semantic views about Veilside without telling the entire story.



Veilside USA is not a large company with only 2 employees, including myself. I would say that we are very small. I've always made sure the company remained humble, and did the best to support their customers. Many of the vendors on this board buy from us and can stand by our reputation on service standards. Again, everyone is human. It is possible you have a wing that was defective since you received it. It is also possible that it was mishandled and in no way Veilside?fs fault. However, just to prove who we are and that we stand behind our products 100%, I have broken multiple company policies to assist you. When I speak with you on the phone your attitude is one of appreciation, but when I turn my back you are on the forums giving your one sided take on things with a whole different attitude. I and Veilside have done a lot to assist you and I do not understand why you feel the need to bash on us like this.



Originally posted by Red6
It’s true their 350z kits have been substandard Ill attest to that.

I've had nothing but problems from the get go with my veilside 1 front lip and rear cracking. Also my version 1 wing was warped.

Veilside does put out good products and their styling is nice for other vehicles. Unfortunately their products have fallen short for the 350Z.

Veilside should just admit the fact they had some flaws instead of blaming them the installers and their customers. They are a big company and I think because of that they are now too big for their britches.

They should also take an example from Stillen in their customer service. Stillen admitted the fact that their wing was flawed and they replaced the part and even reimbursed their customers for their install.

If more companies did this the import industry it would be a better place. Companies should always take care of their customers to the highest degree if there’s a flaw in their products hands down.
Old 09-30-2003 | 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by swifty949
I'm very confused as to why you are complaining about the service. The wing in question was purchased over 6 months ago. Who's to say if it really was a flaw in the Veilside part? It's been 6 months, it could have been your body shop, there is no evidence to support that it's a flaw in the Veilside part. If you read the Veilside return policy, a standard return is within 30 days of receiving the item. Also, the item can not be worked on by a body shop. The reason is this: once the item has been worked on, who's to say that it wasn't mishandled? I've seen flawed work from top notch body shops, everyone is human, so you can not use that as an excuse. If the wing was defective when you got it, why do you expect paint to be reimbursed? If you knew it was warped before you painted it, and you claim that you did, then why did you go ahead and paint it? That was your choice. As far I'm concerned you are being offered a kind gesture to be able to exchange an item that is 1) painted and worked on and 2) 5 months too late.

What I don?ft understand is I give you the good will to help you out even though you are trying to return something used for 6 months. I've even offered to come in during my weekend on my own personal time to give you the replacement wing. In return, all you've done is spread your anti-semantic views about Veilside without telling the entire story.



Veilside USA is not a large company with only 2 employees, including myself. I would say that we are very small. I've always made sure the company remained humble, and did the best to support their customers. Many of the vendors on this board buy from us and can stand by our reputation on service standards. Again, everyone is human. It is possible you have a wing that was defective since you received it. It is also possible that it was mishandled and in no way Veilside?fs fault. However, just to prove who we are and that we stand behind our products 100%, I have broken multiple company policies to assist you. When I speak with you on the phone your attitude is one of appreciation, but when I turn my back you are on the forums giving your one sided take on things with a whole different attitude. I and Veilside have done a lot to assist you and I do not understand why you feel the need to bash on us like this.

For one I never knew the wing was warped until it was found by second install. I have expressed to you at Veilside USA many times.

If I knew this from the get go I would have went with something else. i would have skip the kit and got some TE-37 rims.

The reason i bought the kit like many others is because Veilside is known for its fitment, style and functionality. Many have been dissipointed with the quality lip and the wing.

Im only sharing my expereice on this board. This kit has flaws and it needs to be addressed not barried by blame. People need to know whats up.

The cracking and designs problems havent been adressed with the V-1 kit. To my knowledge Veilside USA has only put blame on the installers when the problem has been in design.

It has been proven with my experiece and others experiences on this board that V-1 kit has many flaws. The flaws is on production side not on the customer side.

Its ridiculus to blame the customer or the installer when these problems have been frequent. Obviously it has something to do with the product.

Veilside USA are scape goating me and my two installers now. Thats funny becouse you took pics and said it yourself the wing was warped.

I even took the time to come to Veiside to personally to pick up the new wing. You forgot to mention that you needed my old one demounted to exchange the new one.

You told me you needed the old one back for exchange and quality control purposes.

I expressed to you that I have limited time (work two jobs and grad school) and wasted a trip. Thats when when you offered to come on a weekend because you messed up.

My fear is that the new replacement is not going to do the warped too. I know another owner that own the V-1 wing and it has the same problems.

If the new wing is warped then Ill be out another $350 for paint and install.

Is that fair that I have to lose $700 total becouse I assumed your wing would fit?

Its not my fault that I expected a offical Veilside product to fit. If I bought a knock off kit then I would expect this kind of treament.

Veilside of Japan is huge and a reibursemnet for a warped product and install shoud be standard. Especially if this is such an infrequent event.

Look at stillen they are a small operartion and they had no problem addmitting that there product was flawed. They reibused their customers fully with no problem.

Listening to your customers complaints can lead to postive changes. Taking care of them fully leads to a good reputation.

Its all about customers not the distributors. The customer buys your products and then inturns sells it through the message boards shows and the street.
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NO SH*T!? half of the pics posted here for some strange reason ended up at that website and I just learned about this too.
they could at least give credit.........shesssh!!!

if i were to steal content this site would have much more pics and videos.
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Originally posted by Red6
They told me it they were basically still working out the bugs.
Like what color to paint their stillen replica?


Stillen


Veilside


Sure, there is more to a kit than just the blower...but common, they look pretty similar.
Old 10-02-2003 | 10:48 AM
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Default VeilSide 350Z SC kit and PROBLEMS?

Firstly, VeilSide would like to thank all the customers and supporters who help us to become a better company. We would also like to send out our apologies to all who has experienced the ill fitment/cracking of the Ver.1 lip spoiler kit. We have addressed that issue, and would like to have everyone informed why and how it happened, and what we have done to remedy that situation.
Problem: The lip kit fits VERY tightly to the stock bumper. To make the lip go over the bumper, flexing the lip put stress onto the spoiler, and cracked immediately or over time.
The Fix: We have cut out a notch in the area which slides over the corner of the stock bumper. This notch helps the installation procedure. There are no issues with cracking hence.
Exchange: VeilSide will accept all returns on defective or cracked units, for those units which have received the modification. For this reason, we have over-stocked our warehouse full of the Ver.1 parts.
Problem: Warped wing. This is usually undetectable to the eye. Usually detected upon installation.
Disclaimer: For the reason that all parts purchased by any aero fashion products, sold by any company, requires a "pre-fit" test procudure. Upon notification within 7 days of defects in material or craftmanship, WE WILL exchange ALL defective parts. However, we need to be notified before actual work is performed. The Fix: Although defective part warrantee is 7 days from receipt without any work performed, we would like to be flexible. We will exchange the part immediately. However, because work performed is done at customer discression without pre-fitment testing, we cannot reimburse the installation charges.

VeilSide SC Kit. Please note that the Stillen and VeilSide supercharger looks the same, because they are. They are from the same manufacturer of this roots type Eaton Super Charger. The differences will be in Intake Manifold manufacturing, fuel, timing, and other tuning parameters.
The kit will most likely include a Rom Tuning of the ECU, as our SC kit requires the stock injectors to operate at max efficiency for the .4kg+ of boost operation. The Rom Tuning will also allow a more aggressive timing tuning. The Rom Tuning on the N/A 350Z produces "only" 6hp at the wheels. Most people scoff at 6whp, but the tuning is actually conducted to make the throttle response better. The throttle will "snap" and engine will rev exteremly freely. We may leave the option of a non-Rom Tune package, but a HKS Fcon V-Pro standalone engine management system, instaead.
The package price may include the optional hood required for clearance issues. This will be clarified at a later time. With the addition of Rom Tuning and required hood, the price is still competitive.

For all questions and comments to this post or VeilSide products, please contact Katsu Azuma directly.

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Old 11-04-2003 | 01:21 AM
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katsu azuma,
any further info bout your sc kit?
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7,559.68 USD for a Roots SC?

Aren't TT Set-ups going for less or equal to that?
Well, if you do a J-Spec turbo expect it to be more astronomical than the Veilside Supercharger. It looks like it is the same as the Stillen one, so why not do the Stillen supercharger?
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First of all I would like to publically thank Azuma-san as acting as the go between with me and the Veilside Japan workshop. The English speaking contact I had there previously had left and so Azuma-san did excellent work in following up with the shop for me. I now have a nice set of driving lights fitted into one of the sets of holes in the version III front bumper, being controlled from the folding mirror switch that became redundant after the aero mirrors were installed - they also fixed the mirrors to give me a better view from of the rear than I had previously

Next while I was waiting the salesman started up the Supercharged Z in the showroom, and OMFG ! It sounds awesome with their full titanium exhaust system on it, especially with the extra power. The engine was extremly responsive, even without the NOS being switched on. It does use the version III hood with a cutout. Installation is a work of art. And I'm not saying all of this because I want dicount with them on future products They already know that I will not be going for their supercharger for 2 main reasons.
1. It mounts on the top of the engine and has to protrude through the hood.
2. In doing so it requires the removal of the front engine brace, and personally I want as rigid a framework on the car as possible, especially when increasing power.

There is another supercharger system now available. From a company called JIC, it seems a cheaper purchase, with more power and locates in the front right of the engine bay. This means no protrusion through the hood and you retain the engine bay brace. Not found out anymore about them as I'm pretty set on the PE twin turbo system.

The car in the showroom is a work of art, and it does have an air suspension system now installed from a company called Ground Zero Air. I want to find out more about this as with the version III front bumber it would be nice to raise/lower the suspension from time to time as keeping stock suspension does not give much clearance at the front. Fine for my racing, but a pain in access for my apartment parking area.

Lastly everything I have seen at Veilside has been the highest quality and I'll be checking them often for new products for my Z and advice for setting up suspension etc. I did also like their GT class Celica there with the additional boost gauges etc mounted very nicely into the front windshield pillar
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JIC system = Procharger
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
JIC system = Procharger
Thanks for clearing that up I have a very limited ability reading Japanese.
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Originally posted by dazee


The car in the showroom is a work of art, and it does have an air suspension system now installed from a company called Ground Zero Air. I want to find out more about this as with the version III front bumber it would be nice to raise/lower the suspension from time to time as keeping stock suspension does not give much clearance at the front. Fine for my racing, but a pain in access for my apartment parking area.

I did also like their GT class Celica there with the additional boost gauges etc mounted very nicely into the front windshield pillar
dazee,

I met up with rep from universal air at the track event, air suspension was on his demo car, would solve all your problems about the ride height.. see the picture from their catalog.. a full 4 wheel kit with eveything you would need starts at 230,000..

saw the RSW gauge pillar for the Z in person, looks pretty good
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Ether, agree that it would solve my problems and be pretty trick too. Did they say where the unit and controls would be? I forgot to ask at Veilside, but must be pretty small as I never saw a unit in the car.
Also yes the pillar guages look much better in person than on that website. Veilside had them on a Celica and I saw them on an RX7 next to me as I was stuck in motor show traffic.

How was the meeting ?
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the unit was between the rear speakers and the strut bar.. meeting was great, a short circuit but a blast to drive around

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Perhaps I missed it on the Veilside car as that would put it pretty well under the huge NOS bottle


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