Timrod Belt Layout with extra idler pulley
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Timrod Belt Layout with extra idler pulley
just finished this setup, and tomorrow sunday going to test it
using 93.5 belt zise, but i think 93 is the ideal size for this setup, 2.87 pulley, and 34/28 tooth for cog pulley, tomorrow i'll show you how it rans on vids, this setup i think i can get around 13 or 14 psi preventing belt slip
My mods are:
BBS rims 9.5J 9J
Michelin PS2 255/35/19
Continental Confort Sport 285/35/19
Nismo Front Bumper
Nismo Side Skirt
Nismo Wing
Rear Bumper MasterXXXX
XO2 Exhasut
ACT Clutch
ACT Flywheel
Kenwood DDX7019 dash video
CF dash
Titanium Shift ****
MB Quartz speaker 6.5inch X 4
P2 Subwoofer Rockford Forgate
Pioneer Amp
Rear Depo Tail Lights CF
6 pot Big Brake 355mm rotor
Vortech Supercharger
Headers Topspeed
HKS Camp 2
Nitrous Twin Bottle
Nitrous Heater
Purge Kit
Kinetix Manifold
HKS Twin Power Ignition DLI II
Kinetix Test Pipes
Momo Steering Wheel
OMP Racing Seats
Water Meth 50% 50% Snow Peroformance Stage 2
TurboXS UTEC 12 psi @ 6500rpm
using 93.5 belt zise, but i think 93 is the ideal size for this setup, 2.87 pulley, and 34/28 tooth for cog pulley, tomorrow i'll show you how it rans on vids, this setup i think i can get around 13 or 14 psi preventing belt slip
My mods are:
BBS rims 9.5J 9J
Michelin PS2 255/35/19
Continental Confort Sport 285/35/19
Nismo Front Bumper
Nismo Side Skirt
Nismo Wing
Rear Bumper MasterXXXX
XO2 Exhasut
ACT Clutch
ACT Flywheel
Kenwood DDX7019 dash video
CF dash
Titanium Shift ****
MB Quartz speaker 6.5inch X 4
P2 Subwoofer Rockford Forgate
Pioneer Amp
Rear Depo Tail Lights CF
6 pot Big Brake 355mm rotor
Vortech Supercharger
Headers Topspeed
HKS Camp 2
Nitrous Twin Bottle
Nitrous Heater
Purge Kit
Kinetix Manifold
HKS Twin Power Ignition DLI II
Kinetix Test Pipes
Momo Steering Wheel
OMP Racing Seats
Water Meth 50% 50% Snow Peroformance Stage 2
TurboXS UTEC 12 psi @ 6500rpm
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With the revised non-rev up i was only slipping at 6300 rpm to redline so honestly i was only getting a tiny amount of slip. I added the gtm pulley on top and it fixed that small amount of slip. I doubt i'll need a second one until i get a t-trim and boosting to 16-18psi.....but at that stage i'd probably just put twin turbo on it instead.
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so you had the revised non-rev setup along with the top GTM pulley and still belt slip? I'd get rid of that gatorback belt and get a Gates belt then.
With the revised non-rev up i was only slipping at 6300 rpm to redline so honestly i was only getting a tiny amount of slip. I added the gtm pulley on top and it fixed that small amount of slip. I doubt i'll need a second one until i get a t-trim and boosting to 16-18psi.....but at that stage i'd probably just put twin turbo on it instead.
With the revised non-rev up i was only slipping at 6300 rpm to redline so honestly i was only getting a tiny amount of slip. I added the gtm pulley on top and it fixed that small amount of slip. I doubt i'll need a second one until i get a t-trim and boosting to 16-18psi.....but at that stage i'd probably just put twin turbo on it instead.
hope tomorrow get some 13psi with this setup.
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yeah, i had belt slip issues @ high rev rpm, and i might make an upgrade @ superchargerrebuilt to E-trim, and some forged internals, and hope to make something like 16 ~ 17 psi, so i think this setup won't slip for my future mods.
hope tomorrow get some 13psi with this setup.
hope tomorrow get some 13psi with this setup.
With my 2.87 i'm pulling up to 12psi on stock revlimiter. It dies at 6600. I'm sure i could get 13psi if i upped the rev limiter to 7100 but i think it would overspin the bearings. They make an even smaller pulley: 2.6 something. I would recommend going with a larger jackshaft cog pulley for more speed with your same belt setup but only if you upgrade the bearings and motor.
What is E-trim? I've never heard of that.
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sweet. what pulley are you running?
With my 2.87 i'm pulling up to 12psi on stock revlimiter. It dies at 6600. I'm sure i could get 13psi if i upped the rev limiter to 7100 but i think it would overspin the bearings. They make an even smaller pulley: 2.6 something. I would recommend going with a larger jackshaft cog pulley for more speed with your same belt setup but only if you upgrade the bearings and motor.
What is E-trim? I've never heard of that.
With my 2.87 i'm pulling up to 12psi on stock revlimiter. It dies at 6600. I'm sure i could get 13psi if i upped the rev limiter to 7100 but i think it would overspin the bearings. They make an even smaller pulley: 2.6 something. I would recommend going with a larger jackshaft cog pulley for more speed with your same belt setup but only if you upgrade the bearings and motor.
What is E-trim? I've never heard of that.
the E-trim can run up to 62K rpm http://www.superchargerrebuild.com/?page_id=6
they charge 750usd for an upgrade.
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you are confused. The E-trim is just a slightly larger compresor housing with a 3.6" outlet (a grinding stone and a dremel could accomplish the same on a normal S trim V-2). Otherwise exact same internals, impeller as the SQ unit. They are both V-2 models.
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=8
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/scspecsheet.php
it cannot run 62,000 rpms. and if you think you have belt slip problems now, try to turn the blower at 62k. 6 rib setups are not made for high boost/hp applications.
Those supercharger rebuild kits offer bearings for any mondel that outspin the cast impellers. I'd make sure they warranty everything against impeller destruction before I'd go with those bearings.
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=8
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/scspecsheet.php
it cannot run 62,000 rpms. and if you think you have belt slip problems now, try to turn the blower at 62k. 6 rib setups are not made for high boost/hp applications.
Those supercharger rebuild kits offer bearings for any mondel that outspin the cast impellers. I'd make sure they warranty everything against impeller destruction before I'd go with those bearings.
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ah, i see. You're already running the high cog belt pulley setup also.
That would be why you were still getting slip.
Str8dum1 is right, you need a stronger impeller. I would look into the 928 billet impeller. Much stronger and improved airflow too.
Someone (i think named quamen or something) is selling an 8 rib crank pulley. You might want to look into that also. He's selling it cheap and it would help with belt slip big time.
That would be why you were still getting slip.
Str8dum1 is right, you need a stronger impeller. I would look into the 928 billet impeller. Much stronger and improved airflow too.
Someone (i think named quamen or something) is selling an 8 rib crank pulley. You might want to look into that also. He's selling it cheap and it would help with belt slip big time.
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yeah like they said ^.... I have 70K bearings on my vortech that I recently rebuild but Iam still on stock impeller so iam not taking full advantage or at all for that matter, because the stock impeller doesnt spin no where near 70K.
PM me if you guys want the number to where I got my bearings. There an Italian brand and they spin to 70K+
PM me if you guys want the number to where I got my bearings. There an Italian brand and they spin to 70K+
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you are confused. The E-trim is just a slightly larger compresor housing with a 3.6" outlet (a grinding stone and a dremel could accomplish the same on a normal S trim V-2). Otherwise exact same internals, impeller as the SQ unit. They are both V-2 models.
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=8
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/scspecsheet.php
it cannot run 62,000 rpms. and if you think you have belt slip problems now, try to turn the blower at 62k. 6 rib setups are not made for high boost/hp applications.
Those supercharger rebuild kits offer bearings for any mondel that outspin the cast impellers. I'd make sure they warranty everything against impeller destruction before I'd go with those bearings.
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=8
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/scspecsheet.php
it cannot run 62,000 rpms. and if you think you have belt slip problems now, try to turn the blower at 62k. 6 rib setups are not made for high boost/hp applications.
Those supercharger rebuild kits offer bearings for any mondel that outspin the cast impellers. I'd make sure they warranty everything against impeller destruction before I'd go with those bearings.
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yeah like they said ^.... I have 70K bearings on my vortech that I recently rebuild but Iam still on stock impeller so iam not taking full advantage or at all for that matter, because the stock impeller doesnt spin no where near 70K.
PM me if you guys want the number to where I got my bearings. There an Italian brand and they spin to 70K+
PM me if you guys want the number to where I got my bearings. There an Italian brand and they spin to 70K+
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In my opinion the best bearings ive ever used and best bang for the buck. Definitely worth it