Timrod Belt Layout with extra idler pulley
#21
you guys do realize that centrifugal superchargers are just like turbos. They have efficiency islands and boost maps. Just because you can spin the small compressor S trims up to 70 doesnt mean you will get anything besides hot air.
Thats part of the reason vortech doesnt spec higher rpm bearing and HD gears in that trim. They arent designed to flow at higher speeds.
What's holding centrifugal charger guys back from big power is the small compressor. Goin to an 8 rib setup and a YSI trim is a much better use of your money over bearings and impellers that are shoved in the small S trim housing.
Thats part of the reason vortech doesnt spec higher rpm bearing and HD gears in that trim. They arent designed to flow at higher speeds.
What's holding centrifugal charger guys back from big power is the small compressor. Goin to an 8 rib setup and a YSI trim is a much better use of your money over bearings and impellers that are shoved in the small S trim housing.
#22
you guys do realize that centrifugal superchargers are just like turbos. They have efficiency islands and boost maps. Just because you can spin the small compressor S trims up to 70 doesnt mean you will get anything besides hot air.
Thats part of the reason vortech doesnt spec higher rpm bearing and HD gears in that trim. They arent designed to flow at higher speeds.
What's holding centrifugal charger guys back from big power is the small compressor. Goin to an 8 rib setup and a YSI trim is a much better use of your money over bearings and impellers that are shoved in the small S trim housing.
Thats part of the reason vortech doesnt spec higher rpm bearing and HD gears in that trim. They arent designed to flow at higher speeds.
What's holding centrifugal charger guys back from big power is the small compressor. Goin to an 8 rib setup and a YSI trim is a much better use of your money over bearings and impellers that are shoved in the small S trim housing.
which is why i have to decide to switch over. if not, i'll rebuild with the high rev bearings just for piece of mind, but i doubt i'll try to rev it any higher.
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#25
eh, once i get that far then i would have dropped a ton more money and there wouldn't be a route to go further. If i just cut my losses and switch to a turbo now then i'll have the ability to upgrade a lot more later.
I haven't decided....LS2 sounds nice too....hahah
ok, back on topic
I haven't decided....LS2 sounds nice too....hahah
ok, back on topic
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eh, once i get that far then i would have dropped a ton more money and there wouldn't be a route to go further. If i just cut my losses and switch to a turbo now then i'll have the ability to upgrade a lot more later.
I haven't decided....LS2 sounds nice too....hahah
ok, back on topic
I haven't decided....LS2 sounds nice too....hahah
ok, back on topic
#27
yep, maybe in a year i'll find out if i'm going to swap ls2 or forge/turbo this motor
#28
powerlab and FP S1 short block sounds good to me!
OP any vids today?
#29
you guys do realize that centrifugal superchargers are just like turbos. They have efficiency islands and boost maps. Just because you can spin the small compressor S trims up to 70 doesnt mean you will get anything besides hot air.
Thats part of the reason vortech doesnt spec higher rpm bearing and HD gears in that trim. They arent designed to flow at higher speeds.
What's holding centrifugal charger guys back from big power is the small compressor. Goin to an 8 rib setup and a YSI trim is a much better use of your money over bearings and impellers that are shoved in the small S trim housing.
Thats part of the reason vortech doesnt spec higher rpm bearing and HD gears in that trim. They arent designed to flow at higher speeds.
What's holding centrifugal charger guys back from big power is the small compressor. Goin to an 8 rib setup and a YSI trim is a much better use of your money over bearings and impellers that are shoved in the small S trim housing.
#30
it does
but ideally you'd want to redo the charge pipes, run 8 rib crank/PS/alt pulleys as well.
but it bolts right up and u can use silicon couplers and the stock pulleys
but ideally you'd want to redo the charge pipes, run 8 rib crank/PS/alt pulleys as well.
but it bolts right up and u can use silicon couplers and the stock pulleys
Last edited by str8dum1; 08-24-2009 at 07:21 AM.
#31
interesting....now to find one that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. 3k for a blower is quite a bit.
#32
Hey Str8dum1, is the stock jackshaft cog pulley 32T and the supercharger cog 30T or 28T?
Last edited by Mr_pharmD; 08-24-2009 at 07:58 AM.
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#35
you guys do realize that centrifugal superchargers are just like turbos. They have efficiency islands and boost maps. Just because you can spin the small compressor S trims up to 70 doesnt mean you will get anything besides hot air.
Thats part of the reason vortech doesnt spec higher rpm bearing and HD gears in that trim. They arent designed to flow at higher speeds.
What's holding centrifugal charger guys back from big power is the small compressor. Goin to an 8 rib setup and a YSI trim is a much better use of your money over bearings and impellers that are shoved in the small S trim housing.
Thats part of the reason vortech doesnt spec higher rpm bearing and HD gears in that trim. They arent designed to flow at higher speeds.
What's holding centrifugal charger guys back from big power is the small compressor. Goin to an 8 rib setup and a YSI trim is a much better use of your money over bearings and impellers that are shoved in the small S trim housing.
Last edited by 350Z400rwhp; 08-24-2009 at 12:27 PM.
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I had plans of doing the bearing upgrade along with the 928 Motorsports Impeller, 2.63 pulley, rev-up cog, and a 928 Motorsports Wastegate set at 11psi. My engine wouldn't see anything higher than 11 but it would come in sooner and give my car some midrange. I know what ya mean Chef when you say our Vortech's are boring. I hate to switch over to turbo at this point but I need some torque! Do you guys think that I would just blow hotter air and not realize much of a gain?
#37
wow 2.63 pulley? that would be around 13 ~ 14psi, today i just finished the new setup, and right now i have 12psi @ 6500rpm w/o any belt slip, i'll post the video in a while, and i did some mod on the GTM pulley (top one) due to was running the belt out, so i'll post my new setup
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