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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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I have the gold plus plan and was just wondering if all warranties pertaining to my engine would be void if i were to install a procharger
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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If they can link the problem with the car to the ProCharger, the warranty's null and void.
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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Here in Texas the burden of proff is on them. They have to prove the charger did the damage. I purchased and had the local Nissan dealer (Grubbs Infiniti) install the unit. They and ATI both warranty the unit. So anyway it goes someone other them me is going to pay.
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by daddy Z
Here in Texas the burden of proff is on them. They have to prove the charger did the damage. I purchased and had the local Nissan dealer (Grubbs Infiniti) install the unit. They and ATI both warranty the unit. So anyway it goes someone other them me is going to pay.

What you say is true, but the level of proof is somewhat vague.

If you install a blower I would expect a challenge on warranty work to the engine, transmission, or rear end. All of these items are subjected to increased stress when running a blower.

I would not expect a problem on warranties for electrical stuff, body problems, interior problems, steering problems, etc. since they are not affected by the blower.

As for proof, if the dealer's mechanic says "I think the blower is the reasons the transmission is shot." that may count as expert testimony and proof of causation unless you find your own expert who can say otherwise.

NOTE: I am not a lawyer, this is just a lay-person's educated guess. (I know how some companies I have worked for would have handled it!)
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by daddy Z
I purchased and had the local Nissan dealer (Grubbs Infiniti) install the unit. They and ATI both warranty the unit. So anyway it goes someone other them me is going to pay.
This is the way I would do it, I would find a Nissan dealer that is a certified ATI installer as well. This is the only way your factory warrranty and mod warranty will be honored that I know of.

Yes, they must prove that the mod caused or contributed to the problem but when you add about 150hp, it is easy to blame many things on that mod on the drivetrain.

Maybe many of you have $10,000 to throw away on a blown motor. I am a teacher on a limited budget. If I buy an ATI SC or any other FI system, it must be back with a warrrant or I cant afford to take that kind of risk.
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by AndyB
What you say is true, but the level of proof is somewhat vague.

If you install a blower I would expect a challenge on warranty work to the engine, transmission, or rear end. All of these items are subjected to increased stress when running a blower.

I would not expect a problem on warranties for electrical stuff, body problems, interior problems, steering problems, etc. since they are not affected by the blower.

As for proof, if the dealer's mechanic says "I think the blower is the reasons the transmission is shot." that may count as expert testimony and proof of causation unless you find your own expert who can say otherwise.

NOTE: I am not a lawyer, this is just a lay-person's educated guess. (I know how some companies I have worked for would have handled it!)
Also they can't blame it on the SC if it's an already identified problem, ie the tranny synchros.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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how hard is it install the procharger yourself? if it isn't too diffifult, and you have engine problems, remove the charger and then take the car in. or do you have to have a pro install it? i have done many a turbo install, but never a super charger.

how much do dealers charge for the install?
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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They say it is a 12 hour install but many people say it takes about 18-20 hours to install it. Figure out the shop rate, be it $70 per hour or whatever it is and you have an idea of the cost of install. Be sure if tuning and dyno cost is included in what they bid on the job.

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by krnlikewh0a
I have the gold plus plan and was just wondering if all warranties pertaining to my engine would be void if i were to install a procharger
Put a procharger on your car and say bye bye to your entire warranty. on your engine, and drivetrain.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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Put a procharger on your car and say bye bye to your entire warranty. on your engine, and drivetrain.
That is what I was told; any form of forced induction, good bye warranty.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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ahhh = / well i guess i'll have to pass on FI then...I cant afford to lose my warranty right now.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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from what some were saying the procharger can be taken off and you'd never know it was on there.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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Yea, but don't like that idiot on another forum who did it and posted how he 0wn3d the dealership, then a member turned him in.

HAH
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 10:11 PM
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that would be means for a good ole beat down!!!
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by damen
from what some were saying the procharger can be taken off and you'd never know it was on there.

The amount of time it would take to take it off would not be worth it.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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The burden of proof may lie with the dealership/Nissan. However, I guarantee you will need to hire a lawyer in order to force the issue. In which case you'll need to decide between paying to hire lawyer to fight a warranty issue, or to just suck it up and pay for whatever issue you have.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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damn, that takes a long time.........
i figured it would be about the same time as a turbo swap-4-8 hours depending on a bunch of different variables.
has anyone here installed their own? sorry toget a little off topic.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by mr2fasterthanyo
damn, that takes a long time.........
i figured it would be about the same time as a turbo swap-4-8 hours depending on a bunch of different variables.
has anyone here installed their own? sorry toget a little off topic.
thanks,
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To be fair to others, you need to do a search and read all the threads on the ATI SC. There is a lot of people that have installed. You can read about the difficulty in doing it, time it takes, advantages and disadvantages to doing it yourself in those threads.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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ok thanks, not a problem....... i guess i am just used to the MR2 boards where the search function is absolute useless.

thanks again
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by alex30327
The amount of time it would take to take it off would not be worth it.
it would be worth it if the motor or tranny blows.
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