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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 03:48 AM
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i am about to order my twin turbo kit. I was planning on building my bottom end at the same time, but it was more money than i wanted to spend. So if i go twin turbo first, and then decide to build my block in the future would it cost a lot more money with the install?? i know the twin turbo install would be a lot easier if i did it all at the same time because i would have to pull the motor out. but if i dont build my block at the same time i wouldnt have to pull out the motor. After having twin turbo installed, would building my block require taking off the turbo kit?? would i be saving a lot more money if i did it all at once?? how much should i expect to pay the machine shop once i have the twin turbo kit on?? thankss
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 03:53 AM
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Yes it would be cheaper to do it all at once.

Yes it would require you to remove the TT kit to build the motor.(How else would it get on the built block?)

Also just a heads up numerous shops say they remove the engine to install the TT kit because its much easier that way then fighting the car trying to fit your hands and tools in there.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 04:06 AM
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TT + build + supporting mods + labor wouldnt come in under $20K

Save your money
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
TT + build + supporting mods + labor wouldnt come in under $20K

Save your money
+1 on that (morning Berto)

Either scrap the project for now or stay under 400whp with the TT and enjoy the stock block as long as possible. The TT on a stock block will still be plenty fast.

As stated already, its definitely cheaper to do everything at the same time in terms of labor install costs.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 04:40 AM
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It will definately be cheaper. Cass is right on the money, you can enjoy the TT kit for a while, and when your ready pull it all out for the build.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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If you stick with your stock block with plans of building it up later, you should allow for the possibility of needing a new block/heads if your stocker lets go.

Hey, it's happened

Plus, you will essentially be paying to install and tune the same turbo system twice, in the long run.

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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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similar situation here for me dude. i had my tt kit, wasnt done(and still not done with my built motor) but wanted to tt my stock block in the meantime. so, i did. but, i did it all myself. if you have to pay for labor, do it all at once.

on the other hand, stock block tt is plenty fast and can be reliable as long as you dont get greedy with wanting more power. i got my tt kit tuned on 9 psi. but turned it down to 7 psi for safety. i also put 4 gallons of 110 in with every tank of gas i fill up. and just put water injection on.

but, if you cant afford to blow your motor, dont get a tt kit. maybe try a vortech. my car was vortech'd before and i beat the crap out of it. ZERO problems.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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NA is so underated
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Best to build it and boost it. But I've seen people get away with a stock block for many many years and thousands of miles. I think there's a thread around here with some guy being boosted (greddy twins) on a stock block and still running for 100k miles... anyone have that link?

It all comes down to how you drive it. But whatever route you take, remember to get an oil cooler. It saves lives.

Oh yes, and please don't have a "budget" if you go FI, because you'll always surpass the amount you want to pay anyhow. Leave at least 10k just incase you might need to buy a new block/rebuild turbos/fix misc broken lines/installation etc.
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