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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 350z-900whp
have u looked into power enterprise GTR 35 quad system ? might give u a hint..

i not sure but wouldn't this system fit on VQDE or VQHR or if u swap you swap your manifold with GTR35 ( i know GTM are working on that for VQDE but not sure if GTM Fit GTR manifold on our VQDE yet or not.) !! since all the pulleys in the same place as GTR i guess ?

i spoke personally with sam about swapping gtr manifold on vqde and he told me its due-able but need spacer to fit that was 7 months ago

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'Nissan R35GTR, VR38DETT, Power Enterprise QUAD-charger system (Stock IHI Twin turbo & Twin Rotrex C30-94 Super Charger: 400ps x2 flow rate, at down stream of intake). The system is designed for 700HP (670+WHP) with huge low to mid-range torque gain benefiting road course and time attack racers'
From what I can understand, the driver said the car doesn't feel like a supercharged car. The torque curve is very smooth. So this is the opposite of what ttg35fort would want. The PE kit seems like it's supplementing the turbos at high RPM, while keeping the oem turbos. I think the PE guy said the engine is stock (normal), so the power is limited by the internals.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 03:05 AM
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Chris@FSP>>
Why ??
This kit could be incredible...What do you think??
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 03:14 AM
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^^^^

I recently saw a "Top Gear" episode in which they stated that at full tilt it took about 120 hp to turn the supercharger on one of the new Jaguars. To me that seemed awfully high, and it was Top Gear, so I took it with a large grain of salt.
This Jaguar was the XKR 5.0l V8 petrol supercharged. The same engine as int he new Land Rover Range Rover and RR Sport. This figure of 120bhp is actually 122bhp to get maximum boost from the supercharger is correct but when you are getting 700 odd bhp if well looked after, it is all happy days!!
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by maximizer
Chris@FSP>>
Why ??
This kit could be incredible...What do you think??
It sure could
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris@FsP
It sure could
I too had a good laugh at that post. Eight turbochargers and four superchargers. WOW, and then he says that he is 16....
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by maximizer
Hi guys,
I have just finalised my plans to make a compound twin charging kit.
It is effectively eight turbochargers and four superchargers working in the same way but the four superchargers are inturn the forcing into four more turbochargers seperately. This eliminates the problem of spooling a big supercharger into a small super charger which is usually what is thought of when thinking of a compound twin charge, but this can not be done as you will break the shaft that runs the smaller supercharger and be left with no charge at all.
My system is very complicated and very hard to achieve, but I hope to do it to my Range Rover in 2010/2011 and later a Custom Carbon Fibre Space Frame Mitsubishi Evo. I just thought that you might want to try a simplar version of what I am attempting to do. If so, here is what you need to do.
First you need three turbochargers (one larger than the other two which should be identical) and one supercharger (should be powerful, but not to big to over power the turbocharger). The first turbocharger, and the biggest, is to feed into a smaller turbocharger, therefore giving you the standard compound turbocharge. Then with the supercharger, pipe this into the third and final turbocharger. Then make/buy a two into one imput joiner and connect the pipes up and mount the chargers.
This is a monumental design and I am very pleased with the prospects of getting over 3,000bhp from my Rover V8 with Dakar Rally in mind custom internals, but with this compound twin charging in the simpelist form will find the 350Z approximately 850-1,500bhp which is briliant.
If you would like digrams, drawings or more information then please write on the post and I will get back to you as quickly as possible.

Just one last thing the brains behind this kit is 16 in March, so starting young!!
Sounds like you are a young whippersnapper with alot of **** and vineger, which is always good. When we are young, we think out of bounds, often achieving great accomplishments. Design your system to fit onto a VQ35 in a 350Z/G35 engine bay, and if the cost is reasonable you will likely find some takers. When you have your design complete, please post your diagrams/drawings here. I, for one, would love to see your concepts, although I do remain sceptical as to how you will get everthing to fit, notwithstanding the issue of cost. Mind you, if it ends up to be pie in the sky BS, get ready for the criticisms that will follow.

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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by maximizer
If you would like digrams, drawings or more information then please write on the post and I will get back to you as quickly as possible.
I'd like a digram, please.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Here are some pics of our sequential kit.


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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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I know Mini Cooper S can be and are Twin Charged
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SoundPerformance
Here are some pics of our sequential kit.
Wow...Just Wow.

Nicely done!

Any dyno graphs?
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Wow nice kit, so many bovs. Must have been a pain to design...
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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crazy that stuff even fits in the bay.

nice work. i'm sure that took some 'figurin' to get all those pipes where they needed to go. i can imagine not cheap by any stretch
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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Wow that is sick.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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only has 2 wastegates, one to gate the small turbo one the big.

still might only use 1 BOV at the IC

Originally Posted by CAB350z
Wow nice kit, so many bovs. Must have been a pain to design...
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
only has 2 wastegates, one to gate the small turbo one the big.

still might only use 1 BOV at the IC
I see 4 (and I think you have to have 4) wastergates. I am not too familiar with the setup, but it looks like a PITA to make. So much piping in such a small area. Wonder how the engine bay temperatures are with this setup.

Either way, very nice job. Looks very clean from the top.

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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
only has 2 wastegates, one to gate the small turbo one the big.

still might only use 1 BOV at the IC
Sorry, meant to say waste gates
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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I was looking at boosted probes single mid mount turbo, could you swap out his large single located in the middle of the car with a smaller turbo and use compound turbo charging plumbing to feed a larger turbo in the sts location? Like a big 16g from the dsm cars to feed a gt37 or sc67 or a turbonetics gtk350 into a gtk650? Would that solve engine compartment space? Heat? Boost down below3k? This would be two turbos not 4. I may not completely understand the concept.I also did nt look at compressor maps to make an educated turbo pair.

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwF0a...eature=related
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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twin charge turbo ranger the 1 turbo puts 13psi and the 2 take from there up to 30psi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0KCU...eature=related
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