Compression ratio calculations? Cosworth F'UP, or mine?
Can't figure this one out. I've generated my own CR calculator and checked it against an online calculator. I've CC'ed the pa2688 pistons and have the dome as an advertised -2.83 cc (as per Cosworth documention) however when I work out the static CR I get a low 9.744:1 (with stock heads) whereas they are documented at 10.3:1. I wondered if someone could check my calcs and tell me where I'm going wrong.
Heads Cosworth
Pistons Hi Comp
Bore 95.55
Stroke 81.4
Total Displacement cc 583.6825163
Head Gasket Bore 96
Head Gasket Thickness 0.5
Total Gasket 3.6191232
Piston Deck 0.6
Total Deck 4.30232813
Piston PA2688
Dome -2.83
Heads Cosworth
Combustion Chamber 58.5
Volume at TDC 69.25145133
Volume at BDC 652.9339676
Compression Ratio 9.428451752
Heads Cosworth
Pistons Hi Comp
Bore 95.55
Stroke 81.4
Total Displacement cc 583.6825163
Head Gasket Bore 96
Head Gasket Thickness 0.5
Total Gasket 3.6191232
Piston Deck 0.6
Total Deck 4.30232813
Piston PA2688
Dome -2.83
Heads Cosworth
Combustion Chamber 58.5
Volume at TDC 69.25145133
Volume at BDC 652.9339676
Compression Ratio 9.428451752
Last edited by redmist; Mar 1, 2010 at 01:33 PM. Reason: Corrected the Cosworth P/N
There is a negitive value for the piston cc. Although the dome is high the valve cutouts are deep. I measured at -1.29cc Cosworth state -2.83
The Cosworth heads are taken into consideration.
Stock combustion chamber is 56cc CR is 9.74:1
Cosworth heads 58.5cc CR is 9.42:1
Even using my lower cc dish measurement I'm still getting a maximum of 9.9:1 CR. Whereas Cosworth state they are a 10.3:1 cr piston.
Wiseco 11:1 CR pistons have a 7cc dome. Which works out to be 11:1 CR in my calculations, as Wiseco advertised.
NOTE that the deck height in my engine is 20 thou less than that of a stock engine. I'm running Cosworth rods, which are slightly longer than stock. As such anyone running these pistons (sometimes sold online as high comp 11:1 CR) appear to have a CR considerably lower than stock!
The Cosworth heads are taken into consideration.
Stock combustion chamber is 56cc CR is 9.74:1
Cosworth heads 58.5cc CR is 9.42:1
Even using my lower cc dish measurement I'm still getting a maximum of 9.9:1 CR. Whereas Cosworth state they are a 10.3:1 cr piston.
Wiseco 11:1 CR pistons have a 7cc dome. Which works out to be 11:1 CR in my calculations, as Wiseco advertised.
NOTE that the deck height in my engine is 20 thou less than that of a stock engine. I'm running Cosworth rods, which are slightly longer than stock. As such anyone running these pistons (sometimes sold online as high comp 11:1 CR) appear to have a CR considerably lower than stock!
Last edited by redmist; Mar 1, 2010 at 01:32 PM.
http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ne&prodid=4158
Cosworth makes both 10.3:1 and 11:1 pistons (as well as 8.8:1) - none of them are the same
Cosworth makes both 10.3:1 and 11:1 pistons (as well as 8.8:1) - none of them are the same
Fully aware that there are multiple pistons by Cosworth. I own two sets, one PA2687 which I'm currently calculating at 8.9:1 CR (with my longer rods , hence the slightly higher CR) and a set of PA2688 which is currently calculating at 9.7:1 again with my longer rods. As such, unless my calculations are incorrect, with high comp 10.3:1 CR Cosworth pistons you will achieve significantly less than 9.7:1CR (I haven't got the stock headgasket compressed height or stock rod length)
Using stock approximation I'm getting around the 9.2:1 mark, a far cry from the advertised 10.3:1.
Using stock approximation I'm getting around the 9.2:1 mark, a far cry from the advertised 10.3:1.
Last edited by redmist; Mar 1, 2010 at 02:20 PM. Reason: Added stock approximation.
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