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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 04:58 AM
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Agreed that comparing a dyno dynamics against a dynojet graph is not apples to apples.

Either way, for the price this seems to be the best bang for the buck! I imagine that things such as a ball bearing turbo, ceramic coatings and header wrap would make this kit shine even more! Not to mention that the dyno was done with all other components being stock.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 06:26 AM
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Even comparing two Dyno Dynamics graphs is not always apples to apples.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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true ^
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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Very nice Sasha
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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Great job man! This came together quickly
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Your kit has no competition when it comes to bang for buck.

This is by far the best Street setup for someone that wants great power, perfect driveability, and quality wrapped up in an affordable package. Heck you even offer upgraded turbo options for those that want to make even more power.

Great work man.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
very nice.

heres the powerab at ~8psi. very comparable
Honestly that dyno is off by a considerable margin IMHO(Ive had numerous pulls on the dyno there and tunes). It is inflated(reads like a dynojet) and the lack of power early on has NO relevance to kit/dyno. It was tuned for safety and purposly low in the early rpm range.

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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by terps
Honestly that dyno is off by a considerable margin IMHO(Ive had numerous pulls on the dyno there and tunes). It is inflated(reads like a dynojet) and the lack of power early on has NO relevance to kit/dyno. It was tuned for safety and purposly low in the early rpm range.
Really I would think that most of the Mid-A would say that the DD dyno at F:T reads lower than most, nothing like a DJ. I believe that members have seen significant increases by having their cars dyno'd at AAM on their DJ.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
very nice.

heres the powerab at ~8psi. very comparable
Yeah, you can’t compare that dyno to the dyno provided for this kit, lol…I’ve had my car on 2 different dyno’s (both Dynapack’s) and the number varied by around 10whp (this was on a naturally aspirated B20 that was only putting down 160whp to begin with).

My bro’s PowerLab 350Z is throwing down 380 whp on 6 psi with nothing more than the 35R kit, exhaust, and ProEFI 48 pin…so that 370 whp dyno on 8 psi seems really low.

http://www.injectedblog.com/2009/01/...haltech-tuned/
Injected Performance tuned this G35 with the PowerLab turbo at 8psi and netted 424 whp…

http://zclub.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=466766
Here’s another one…376whp on roughly 5.5psi

I just pulled these two from a 1 minute search of Google images…
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Should be noted that his setup doesn't have a 3" single exit like the others. So in short it seems comparable with BP's old dyno with the other exhaust. Almost same peak HP in the same area.

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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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All this dyno stuff comparison stuff is irrelevant. The only way you could compare the two is if I put the GT35R BB turbo on there.

The kit does make power, solid power. Nothing rattles, there are no clearance issues anywhere, and it is very easy to install. You can put whatever turbo you want in there, as the flanges will have the T3 AND T4 bolt patterns. So if you want a turbo that spools quicker get a T3 turbo, and if you want more top end get a T4. It will bolt right up.

I would not want to go any higher with the torque. Many people thing that HP brakes stuff, this is not true. The torque brakes stuff and bends rods. I am not ready to do that just yet. When I build the motor, the torque will look different.

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance
A friend of my made 720whp on a dyno down south of the city (don' know the type of dyno) at 26psi of boost. Well, last night I saw the dyno graph at this dyno and it barely got over the 600whp mark.

It is easy to inflate numbers to make a setup look good.
I know that story and its a load of Bull **** by one dyno operator phucking with numbers to make another guy look bad several people that know how the whole thing went down agree with that one guy was being a douche (the guy with the lower numbers). I bet you could prove it one way or another by bringing your car down south.

Its just as easy to deflate them or mess with them by using correction factors, thats why uncorrected is nice to see, i see yours are corrected 1.05. I get mine corrected for weather only so i can compair my changes from the last time it ran. I also agree compairing dynos is a waste of time as you said it is a tuning tool and the only thing worth compairing are your numbers on the same dyno to see your improvments.

Its good to see you got your bugs worked out and are making good power now.

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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35
I know that story and its a load of Bull **** by one dyno operator phucking with numbers to make another guy look bad.

Its just as easy to deflate them, thats why uncorrected is nice to see, i see yours are corrected 1.05. I get mine corrected for weather only so i can compair my set up from the last time it ran.
That is the point I am trying to get across here as well.

I am doing all of his IC piping this weekend too, going with 3" all around. Should flow very nice. He told me about the difference himself when I was making changes to his downpipe.

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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance
That is the point I am trying to get across here as well.

I am doing all of his IC piping this weekend too, going with 3" all around. Should flow very nice. He told me about the difference himself when I was making changes to his downpipe.

Ya one dyno to another is pointless let alone ones down south at sea level to ours at 4000ft DA.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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Dynojet SAE correction is Dynojet SAE correction. It cannot be tampered with (to my knowledge). SAE or STD - either is good.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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you are directly positioning your kit against the PL kit and have stated its superiority in many posts, so yes the dynos are completely relevant.

but price is a great advantage!

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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Awesome work. Can't wait to see more of these on the streets soon. This summer's gonna be one heck of a summer. At this price level its even more affordable to get into the world of FI. I can see more folks on the fence crossing that bridge now
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
you are directly positioning your kit against the PL kit and have stated its superiority in many posts, so yes the dynos are completely relevant.

Yes, I stated the ADVANTAGES when it comes to install, and the fact that you don't have to remove/modify nearly as much to get this kit installed. Advantages on the exhaust side of things, and the fact that there is no rattling, or extra heat in the engine bay.

So, if we wanted to compare dyno numbers, I would have to get the GT35R BB turbo, or equivalent. I am sure you would agree with the fact that you can't compare spool between a JB turbo and a BB turbo.


Originally Posted by str8dum1
but price is a great advantage!
That too, an advantage.



You keep posting the PL dyno at 8psi and the car making 373whp. You don't see me going off saying..."well that settles it, I made over 400whp at 8psi, my kit is the $hit, case closed"...
That would be a stupid thing to say. The PL kit has been out there, and has proved itself, now it is my turn.

I had a feeling that this would turbo out to be a dyno pissing contest, that is why I was so hesitant to post numbers. Ah well, it is what it is, can't make everybody happy.

Even if I don't sell any of these kits, I will still be very happy with the results and performance of this system. I built it, I know it inside out, and there is plenty of room to grow with a built block.

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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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I don't see this as a Dyno pissing contest at all. Just a comparison and a little something for those considering single kits to go by. All in all i think those who have been following single builds can determine for themselves which kit to buy. At this point IMHO it's about top mount vs bottom mount. No more Turbonetics or APS only options it's now Powerlab or Boosted Performance. Good work man! Make some more vidz and keep posting for sure.
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance
"well that settles it, I made over 400whp at 8psi, my kit is the $hit, case closed"...
Well can you deny you haven't even thought this? LOL. I know I have. However, it is very appropriate not to draw conclusions where data and experience have not yet been established. Kudos.
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