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Old 05-18-2010, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
^^ Uh huh...
Old 05-18-2010, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
You are getting confused. They are not using the Turbo Tuff I beams on the S1 builds. They are using the H beams that cost the same as Eagles, thus like Sahrif said in post 1, price is unchanged.

The H beams weight 510g each (pn:14019-6)

I was asking about the Turbo tuff rods compared to pauter. totally different, which is why Sharif must have been thinking of the H beam weight and not the turbo tuff weight. Simple mistake.
from what i see the Manley H beams are in the 500 range and the Eagles are in the 400 range. thus meaning Manley H beams cost more = More Costly..
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also dont forget:

Eagles are rated @ 1500hp vs the Manley H-beams which are 600-800hp depending on rod bolts.
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Some people prefer these rods for the made in USA branding..
Old 05-18-2010, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Highway Riding
Some people prefer these rods for the made in USA branding..
makes perfect sense for people buying Nissan/Infiniti's and modding with parts NOT made in USA..

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Old 05-18-2010, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by IslandZavage
makes perfect sense for people buying Nissan/Infiniti's and modding with parts NOT made in USA..
Not trying to argue at all BTW.. I see these rods in alot of High HP KA24DE builds.. How about eagle rods?
http://www.eaglerod.com/index.php?op...d=22&Itemid=33

We are centrally located in Southaven, Mississippi which is a suburb of Memphis, Tennessee.

Some people say eagle rods are forged in china and assembled in the USA compared to Manley which is supposed to all be forged and assembled in NJ.. I just don't see any controversy about this switch.

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Old 05-18-2010, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Highway Riding
Not trying to argue at all BTW.. I see these rods in alot of High HP KA24DE builds.. How about eagle rods?
http://www.eaglerod.com/index.php?op...d=22&Itemid=33

We are centrally located in Southaven, Mississippi which is a suburb of Memphis, Tennessee.
no argument at all..lol.. I got EAGLES in my build.... wether they were made in the US or the moon they were/are the right choice for me/my plans..
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Originally Posted by IslandZavage
no argument at all..lol.. I got EAGLES in my build.... wether they were made in the US or the moon they were/are the right choice for me/my plans..
Gotcha and as a note in both VQ's and KA24DE's eagle rods in fact do seem to be more commonly used.
Old 05-18-2010, 07:15 AM
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good to know you are just spouting off bullsh1t.

maybe you should double check your facts

CRS5680N3D
standard forged 4340 steel H-Beam
common applications:
Nissan/Infiniti VQ35
price per set of 6: $600.00
fasteners: 3/8" ARP 2000
torque: 43 ftlbs with ARP moly lube on threads
pin fit: bushed
recommended up to 1500 HP
DIMENSIONS
length: 5.680 in.
rod journal: 0.000 in.
housing bore: 2.1670 in.
pin size: 0.866 in.
big end width: 0.8150 in.
pin end width: 0.8200 in.
thickness above pin: 0.190 in.
typical weight: 555g
RECOMMENDED BEARINGS
ACL 6B2640H
REPLACEMENT PARTS
pin bushing: B808
alignment sleeve: 10004
single bolt: 201500
single rod: CRS5680N3D-1

Originally Posted by IslandZavage
from what i see the Manley H beams are in the 500 range and the Eagles are in the 400 range. thus meaning Manley H beams cost more = More Costly..
Old 05-18-2010, 07:36 AM
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i never said the EAGLES DIDNT weigh 555g.. but your $600 price is wrong. they can be bought in the 400 range.... so wheres the b/s ur talking about?

and i'll take the extra 45g of weight for the additional 700hp rating..

dont push the issue.. trust me on this... i got no beef with u. im just stating the facts and what was stated here and from both manufacture/re-sellers sites..

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Originally Posted by str8dum1
good to know you are just spouting off bullsh1t.

maybe you should double check your facts

CRS5680N3D
standard forged 4340 steel H-Beam
common applications:
Nissan/Infiniti VQ35
price per set of 6: $600.00
fasteners: 3/8" ARP 2000
torque: 43 ftlbs with ARP moly lube on threads
pin fit: bushed
recommended up to 1500 HP
DIMENSIONS
length: 5.680 in.
rod journal: 0.000 in.
housing bore: 2.1670 in.
pin size: 0.866 in.
big end width: 0.8150 in.
pin end width: 0.8200 in.
thickness above pin: 0.190 in.
typical weight: 555g
RECOMMENDED BEARINGS
ACL 6B2640H
REPLACEMENT PARTS
pin bushing: B808
alignment sleeve: 10004
single bolt: 201500
single rod: CRS5680N3D-1
btw - i was talking about price.. not weight.. re-read my posts so ur post is b/s cause its not even talking about the right thing...

Originally Posted by IslandZavage
from what i see the Manley H beams are in the 500 range and the Eagles are in the 400 range. thus meaning Manley H beams cost more = More Costly..
in red/underlined to clear things up for you.

im just sayin..

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Old 05-18-2010, 08:02 AM
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Manley I-Beam Turbo Tuff's weigh about 610g (thanks for the correction)
Manley H-Beams weigh about 520g

Each set of rods are initially grouped by weight so each batch of rods may vary. Keep in mind that manufacturers sometimes overrate and others will underrate their intended power claims.
Old 05-18-2010, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by IslandZavage
i never said the EAGLES DIDNT weigh 555g.. but your $600 price is wrong. they can be bought in the 400 range.... so wheres the b/s ur talking about?

and i'll take the extra 45g of weight for the additional 700hp rating..

dont push the issue.. trust me on this... i got no beef with u. im just stating the facts and what was stated here and from both manufacture/re-sellers sites..
Originally Posted by str8dum1
good to know you are just spouting off bullsh1t.

maybe you should double check your facts

CRS5680N3D
standard forged 4340 steel H-Beam
common applications:
Nissan/Infiniti VQ35
price per set of 6: $600.00
fasteners: 3/8" ARP 2000
torque: 43 ftlbs with ARP moly lube on threads
pin fit: bushed
recommended up to 1500 HP
DIMENSIONS
length: 5.680 in.
rod journal: 0.000 in.
housing bore: 2.1670 in.
pin size: 0.866 in.
big end width: 0.8150 in.
pin end width: 0.8200 in.
thickness above pin: 0.190 in.
typical weight: 555g
RECOMMENDED BEARINGS
ACL 6B2640H
REPLACEMENT PARTS
pin bushing: B808
alignment sleeve: 10004
single bolt: 201500
single rod: CRS5680N3D-1
Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Manley I-Beam Turbo Tuff's weigh about 610g (thanks for the correction)
Manley H-Beams weigh about 520g

Each set of rods are initially grouped by weight so each batch of rods may vary. Keep in mind that manufacturers sometimes overrate and others will underrate their intended power claims.
even better.. i'll take the additional 35g (corrected from 45g)of weight for the 700hp additional rating.

Originally Posted by str8dum1
You are getting confused. They are not using the Turbo Tuff I beams on the S1 builds. They are using the H beams that cost the same as Eagles, thus like Sahrif said in post 1, price is unchanged.

The H beams weight 510g each (pn:14019-6)

I was asking about the Turbo tuff rods compared to pauter. totally different, which is why Sharif must have been thinking of the H beam weight and not the turbo tuff weight. Simple mistake.
Maybe Str8dum1 you need to PM sharif so you can get a clear idea of what the weight and what product your talking about. if im confused its cause of all the different numbers being thrown around about the Manleys...
Old 05-18-2010, 09:30 AM
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Well, the official brochure in Manley's pdf doc clearly states that the H-beam rods weigh 510 grams and that the Pro Series Turbo Tuff I-beam rods weigh 605 grams.

I understand that there are slight variances, but that doesn't explain the conflicting info that has been posted here in this thread.

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Carrillo's FTW
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str8dum1.... no response? i got no beef with u, but if your gonna call me out and say my post is b/s you better be correct and clear. i was talking about price and u comment on weight and have the nerve to call my post b/s just because u were confused on what i was talking about. its all good though...cheers

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Hey Sharif, can you help out on this one....

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...-mechanic.html
Old 05-18-2010, 04:58 PM
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lol this thread is full of so many things
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RA scat rods.......what?
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Originally Posted by westpak
Carrillo's FTW
hell yes


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