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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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anyone use the LC-1 with the DB gauge by chance? im not understanding this ********, i dont get a clean read, it scales from 7.4 blinking to 21.6 ive done the free air cal, and the first cal what ever its called, anyways anyone had this issue and know the fix? or anyone know how to fix it? thanks
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i had this gauge and didn't run into any issues with it. a few quick questions:
- where did you run all your ground wires?
- does the scale blink continuously?
- does the gauge display any values between 7.4 and 21.6? when the o2 sensor is first turned on the gauge is supposed to blink 7.4 for about 10 seconds then it will start showing the correct values (no blinking).
- is your gauge kit new? new o2 sensor?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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yes it does show other numbers but its nothing serious just quick numbers here and there but majority of the time its blinking 7.4 and jumps to 21.6 gauge kit is new, 02 sensor is older and as for the ground wires i dont know off the top of my head to be honest...
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most of the bugs i've heard with this kit are from grounding issues. if you had a shop install it ask them where they grounded everything. innovate recommends you ground the controller & gauge back to the battery.

as for the o2 sensor, maybe try doing a sensor heater calibration. IIRC, this involves disconnecting the o2 sensor from the controller for a few seconds then letting the controller cycle on & off. the manual has more info on the process.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Apparently they are very sensitive to how they are wired. I had mine and it went bad within the first few weeks doing something similar to what yours is. Innovate replaced it free of charge and I rewired it ( I soldered the connectors and got a better ground ) and now it works great.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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Also, make sure when you go into the setup on your laptop that it's set to 'gasoline' - that's 3 hours of my life I'll never get back...
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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i will look were is its grouned today, and get back with you guys, thanks for all the input
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ya, make sure you program it to gasoline like someone mentioned and ground everything at the same point and a very good ground.

it should just say 20.8% when it's sitting and the car hasn't been ran for 8 hours or so. That would be the atomospheric o2 percent.

i didn't have issues with mine.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Might have to go into the LM Programmer and see if the output for the aux is set properly. You got two outputs, one for a device such as emanage utec, etc... and another for gauge, one of them is supposed to be already programmed for a gauge, just gotta pick the right one.
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ya, make sure you program it to gasoline like someone mentioned and ground everything at the same point and a very good ground.

it should just say 20.8% when it's sitting and the car hasn't been ran for 8 hours or so. That would be the atomospheric o2 percent.

i didn't have issues with mine.

It should actually max out, which would be 22.0 ( the wideband can only go from 22.0 to 10.0 )...although sometimes it'll read 21.8 or so. I've had 3 different widebands on various vehicles and they all went to 22...are you sure yours is okay?
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^ the LC-1 & DB gauge will display values from 7.35 (0V) to 22.39 (5V) by default. the max i saw prior to cold starts was 21.6.
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OP, i've attached the manuals for the LC-1 and DB gauge. take a look at the error code section at the end of the LC-1 manual. see if the series of blinks you're getting corresponds to one of the known errors.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 04:06 AM
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OP, i've attached the manuals for the LC-1 and DB gauge. take a look at the error code section at the end of the LC-1 manual. see if the series of blinks you're getting corresponds to one of the known errors.
awesome, ill look into, thanks again guys ill keep you guys updated now who knows about vacuum and boost gauges, i dont really get on my car due to improper tune, but i notice my car doesnt even get outta of vac, when i get on her a lil she jumps up to around -8 but nothing really beyond that. is that normal?
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Originally Posted by GT-ER
It should actually max out, which would be 22.0 ( the wideband can only go from 22.0 to 10.0 )...although sometimes it'll read 21.8 or so. I've had 3 different widebands on various vehicles and they all went to 22...are you sure yours is okay?
no, if the car is cold it won't max out. the innovate will display oxygen percentage. That's how you do an air cal. On a completely cold car the o2 reading will display oxygen content only in % form. It's in the manual.

the only time it will display an a/f display is if the car is running or has been running just previously and there are exhaust gases left over in the exhaust.
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no, if the car is cold it won't max out. the innovate will display oxygen percentage. That's how you do an air cal. On a completely cold car the o2 reading will display oxygen content only in % form. It's in the manual.

the only time it will display an a/f display is if the car is running or has been running just previously and there are exhaust gases left over in the exhaust.
Exactly, and fresh air contains no fuel thus why it maxes out.
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Exactly, and fresh air contains no fuel thus why it maxes out.
it wo'nt read an a/f ratio when in fresh air, it will read a percentage. I have mine still in my car hooked up and it's been there for 2 years. go check it, in a car that hasn't been run overnight or in fresh air it reads an air percentage that should be 20.8 or 20.9. That is when you do a free air cal and then after the free air cal it will sit there at 20.8 or 20.8 until the engine has been ran. promise. i see that gauge every morning for 2 years.

*this is also on the xd-16 gauge. I just saw he said DB gauge. i could see maybe the db gauge reading max a/f since it doesn't have the ability to calibrate built in like the xd-16. sorry
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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it wo'nt read an a/f ratio when in fresh air, it will read a percentage. I have mine still in my car hooked up and it's been there for 2 years. go check it, in a car that hasn't been run overnight or in fresh air it reads an air percentage that should be 20.8 or 20.9. That is when you do a free air cal and then after the free air cal it will sit there at 20.8 or 20.8 until the engine has been ran. promise. i see that gauge every morning for 2 years.

*this is also on the xd-16 gauge. I just saw he said DB gauge. i could see maybe the db gauge reading max a/f since it doesn't have the ability to calibrate built in like the xd-16. sorry
so should i try doing a free air cal then?
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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wasn't there a batch of bad lc-1's?
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Exclamation Rev9 kit y pipe broken

My car sits low a, so when I got under it to do an inspection I noticed that I have a break on the hot side. Is the pipe replaceable or do I have to get it welded back on? I can’t find the part anywhere. Has anyone else ever had this problem with the rev 9 kit? How did you fix it? This is the infamous Ypipe that’s a pain in the *** to install
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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 05:22 AM
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IDK why you are posting in this thread, but my weld broke in the same spot. except I caught it before it completely fell off. Take it out, clean the collector up and get a new v-band flange. You can see how I opened mine up in my budget turbo thread
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