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Old 08-02-2010, 08:01 AM
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Mods, please don't move this as it sort of pertains to FI, and i'm not getting much help in the tuning section.

If i were to pick up an HKS FCon VPro that was tuned for a a non-revup engine, would it still be compatible with a revup engine?
I understand the tune could be way off, but could it work?
Like would i be able to start the car?
I will be running the same TT that the VPro was tuned for. The only difference is that his car was a non-revup, and mine is.

Any help or insight would be great.
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Originally Posted by ReV2Red
Mods, please don't move this as it sort of pertains to FI, and i'm not getting much help in the tuning section.

If i were to pick up an HKS FCon VPro that was tuned for a a non-revup engine, would it still be compatible with a revup engine?
I understand the tune could be way off, but could it work?
Like would i be able to start the car?
I will be running the same TT that the VPro was tuned for. The only difference is that his car was a non-revup, and mine is.

Any help or insight would be great.
I'm sorry I really can't answer your question,

But, what TT kit are you getting?
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Why would you want to install an EMS like the Vpro and run it on a tune from another car?

Did you have the same injectors as the car it was removed from?
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Its an HKS GT-RS Kit from a forum member.

I will be running the same injectors, fuel pump, etc..
I have no intention in keeping the tune, i will have it remapped for my car ofcourse, but i need to get the car to the tuner (who is very far away), and i need to know if i will be able to start the car and carefully drive it (try to keep it out of boost) to the truck pick up point, load it, unload it, etc.

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Originally Posted by ReV2Red
Its an HKS GT-RS Kit from a forum member.
cool. I knew it had to be HKS. I was actually looking for a complete kit with those turbos, but haven't had anly luck. Guess you found them before I did
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I haven't wired a standalone in a revup, but if all the relevant wires are at the same pins (coils, injs, triggers), then there is no reason it shouldn't work. The fcon doesn't support cam timing therefore doesn't even interface the wires for it. I would bet you could PnP it and fire up ok if you run the same injectors and go get it tuned
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Depending on the cars year and what version Fcon you have the wiring harness will be different. The car won't idle correctly and there could be some failsafe switches set. I recommend having the software available in case you run into a problem.
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Originally Posted by phunk
I haven't wired a standalone in a revup, but if all the relevant wires are at the same pins (coils, injs, triggers), then there is no reason it shouldn't work. The fcon doesn't support cam timing therefore doesn't even interface the wires for it. I would bet you could PnP it and fire up ok if you run the same injectors and go get it tuned
Yeah my main worry was the cam phasing, but if it doesn't even wire up, then technically the stock ECU should still control it, but i guess i won't know until it comes time to bite the bullet.

My only other alternative is to fly the tuner to me, but the closest dyno is still a good 30 minutes away from where i live.
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Originally Posted by CrazyVQ35tt
Depending on the cars year and what version Fcon you have the wiring harness will be different. The car won't idle correctly and there could be some failsafe switches set. I recommend having the software available in case you run into a problem.
You sound like you have first hand knowledge of this. Can you elaborate please?
The car it was installed was a 2003, and mine is a 2006.
I belive the Vpro is the 3.2 (not the latest one).
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Rev, is the kit installed yet? Why not tow/transport the car? I would rather spend the extra $500 for piece of mind.
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Nah the kit is still in the US. I'll hopefully install it at the end of the summer. The plan is to truck freight the car to the tuner, but the shipping company can't pick the car up from my door, and they state that the car has to be in running condition so they can drive it on and off the truck. The tuner is in the UK, and i live in Spain, so i can't just put it on the back of a tow truck for legal reasons, so i have to use a truck freight company. Hence my dilemma.
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Is there a separate wiring harness for the revup and non-revup? If so, could i just buy a revup harness, and away we go?
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Originally Posted by ReV2Red
Is there a separate wiring harness for the revup and non-revup? If so, could i just buy a revup harness, and away we go?
HKSUSA only list one harness for the VQ35, although the years say 03-04: 42002-AN005 NISSAN 350Z , (Z33) 2003-2004 VQ35DE $505.00

http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=2026&rsku=5861
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Why don't you get a reflash so you can start and run the car with the bigger injectors and install the F-CON VPRO at the tuner shop.
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why would you want a locked EMS if your tuner is in another country???
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Originally Posted by midz350
Why don't you get a reflash so you can start and run the car with the bigger injectors and install the F-CON VPRO at the tuner shop.
Would that work? I mean in theory it should as long as the engine stays out of boost right?
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
why would you want a locked EMS if your tuner is in another country???
It makes absolutely no difference if it's locked or not, as the tuner would still be in another country. ?????
If the map goes to ****, i'm still going to need to take the car to the tuner to get it remapped, and if all it needs is a tweek, then i can do that with the camp2, or just fly him out for a weekend.

More to the point though, i got it i got it for a killer deal with the whole kit, and it is still a very capable piece of kit!
In theory, if it's tuned right there should be no need for me to touch it.

But anyway, back to the actual topic. Do YOU know if it would work?
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FWIW, You can NOT make any adjustment with a CAMP2, the maps are 100% locked. You have no control to make ANY changes.

But Yes, it will work. Will it run properly, probably not. And NO i would never try to start it on map from another car without being able to adjust anything while doing so. Like CrazyVQ said, you cannot see any of the params prior to starting.
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I was pretty sure the camps 2 allows you to tweek things. You can't completely change a map, but it does allow you to slightly tweek the map. Or maybe that was just on the Fcon iS. ?????

Yeah i'm sure the tune is going to be rough as ***, but i just need to be able to drive it onto the truck, and back off it, and maybe have to do a couple of careful miles.
Trust me, it's far from ideal, but i have to work with what i've got.
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There is a difference in the wiring hardness the 2006 has more information going to the stock ECU. It will work it just will need to be Repin for things like vehicle speed if you are going to use all the functions. It all depends on the parameters settings and internal switches it's easy to set up if you have the software and manuals. Starting the car is one thing driving it to your tuner is not good. I would bring the car and all the goodies and have it installed, programmed and tuned by one shop.

The Fcon is a great piggyback/stand alone you won't be disappointed.


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