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Old 10-02-2010 | 11:09 PM
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Hey guys I drift the hell out of my z, I am at a cross roads on my next up grade. I want close to 325 whp and was wondering how a stillen supercharger will work for drifting? I know that a single or twin turbo will be better so please don't comment on that, a turbo set up is too much for a stock vq to handle at the track. I kick the crap out o my car and I don't want to worry about blowing it up. It's stillen or Iam going to rebuild it for a NA set up witch will cost more than the charger. Any input is great please tell me why u think witch is best!


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I would think an NA build would be best for drifting. A twin turbo system would be the worst choice IMHO. No matter how well built turbos have some amount of lag. It would seem this would make drifting harder as you will always have to try to keep the car in boost once the turbos are spooled. An NA build would not have that problem. A supercharger would seem to be a medium between the two but I'm not sure what effect it would have.
Old 10-02-2010 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by xzotklr
I would think an NA build would be best for drifting. A twin turbo system would be the worst choice IMHO. No matter how well built turbos have some amount of lag. It would seem this would make drifting harder as you will always have to try to keep the car in boost once the turbos are spooled. An NA build would not have that problem. A supercharger would seem to be a medium between the two but I'm not sure what effect it would have.
You need to do some research, and tell us what the most popular drift cars are, and what they have for power adders.
Old 10-03-2010 | 12:29 AM
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People that have not driven a vehicle with FI,weather it be a roots s/c, centrifical s/c, single turbo or twin turbo need STFU due to they have no clue what they are talking about.
There are so many factors in different FI kits and setups as well as how the power comes on that it is rediculous to even discuss it in this thread. Drifters have used all of the above methods of FI for making additional power and they all seem to do very well. It is the driver and his skill that makes a great drifter not the type of FI system he run's.
Old 10-03-2010 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JET MECH
People that have not driven a vehicle with FI,weather it be a roots s/c, centrifical s/c, single turbo or twin turbo need STFU due to they have no clue what they are talking about.
There are so many factors in different FI kits and setups as well as how the power comes on that it is rediculous to even discuss it in this thread. Drifters have used all of the above methods of FI for making additional power and they all seem to do very well. It is the driver and his skill that makes a great drifter not the type of FI system he run's.
Very true! Iam just looking for what's the best solution to get good low end power that will help me out! I have no problem drifting at evergreen speedway on the 3/8 track in 3rd doing 60 mph Iam looking for enough power to drift the 5/8th so I can start to run in the proam comps. But like everyone I have a very limited budget I just need the bang for the buck, and reliability. The stillen seems like a good idea.

I have talked to KPR and Intec racing over here good shops that support FD drivers and they say DO Not go with a vortex type charger if u get a charger go with screw type stillen is the only company that makes one for the z, the alternatives they say are build a NA motor, ls swap or go turbo. So Iam trying to get as much info as I can on the stillen sc cuz it's the easiest and cost the least.

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Old 10-03-2010 | 07:49 AM
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Great News, Stillen Stage 9 SC now available for DE engines..........
Now with 300rwhp!!!!!
Old 10-03-2010 | 08:32 AM
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^What?
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So you want opinions but you dont want to hear that the Stillen is an undersized, heat soaking POS kit?

So really, you dont want opinions you want dumb fawk verification? Well if thats the case you get that. You would have to be a retard, and a really stupid one at that to choose the Stillen, this is fawking 2010 not 2004 when it may have been a legit option.

JWT 530 kit with its small snails will make tons of TQ down low and midrange. I dont understand why you want down low TQ anyway who drifts at 2000rpms?

There are much better options available for you, your car and your application, get off the Stillen idea Corky....

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Old 10-03-2010 | 10:31 AM
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Corky,You got a solid plan.
Get the stage 1 Stillen kit and put your own fuel system on it. Big injectors and big pumps. Name brand ones.
Save the money and go without the intercooler
Old 10-03-2010 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rubabealf

I have talked to KPR and Intec racing over here good shops that support FD drivers and they say DO Not go with a vortex type charger if u get a charger go with screw type stillen is the only company that makes one for the z, the alternatives they say are build a NA motor, ls swap or go turbo. So Iam trying to get as much info as I can on the stillen sc cuz it's the easiest and cost the least.
Like others have said Stillen is the worst POS kit ever it is too small for the 3.5L engine so it works way to hard but dosent make good power, it will cause more heat soak than most turbo systems however a huge hole cut in your hood may minimize the heat soak

Stillen maybe the cheapest system but HP/dollar it is way more expensive power gains with the stage4 are muck less than any other system for this platform.

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Old 10-03-2010 | 03:17 PM
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It's your car...


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Old 10-03-2010 | 04:10 PM
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I personally had the JWT 530b KIT and it really was amazing how fast those turbos spool up on stock compression. my torque curve was nice and flat throughout the whole rpm range. 376wheel hp and 385wheel tq @ 8psi and was perfect.
Old 10-03-2010 | 08:27 PM
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Alright so people don't like the Stillen. I got ya, every one else was telling me what to get, not really why i should not get the Stillen. Thanks for the input, I will disregard the Stillen!

Dose anybody know of a F/I kit that will only make like 320-330 WHP or close to. I dont trust the VQDE to hold 375WHP while tearing it up at the track while hot lapping for 20 mins at a time!

disregard the price but a kit with lower HP numbers? IE a single turbo kit with a smaller turbo. or a small twin turbo kit?
Old 10-04-2010 | 06:06 AM
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Any kit at lower boost will hit your goals easy, other than the Stillen.

again the JWT 530's would be ideal for the powerband you are after.
Old 10-04-2010 | 06:58 AM
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Like Alberto said.....the JWT530 is what you are looking for. OR......if you want a good single setup....do a search on Boosted Performance or JTran Studio.


And just to clear something up.....don't get it wrong....no one said they hated the Stillen kit....why would we?? From the sweet howling sound that comes from that S/C, to the cosmetically corrected hood you need to get the hood to close, when you floor the pedal it sounds like you just added 700whp more.....but on a dyno it tells you +5 ....not to forget the indisputable good price that is charged for that whopping +5 whp.....

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Old 10-04-2010 | 07:16 AM
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When my car had bolt-ons, I raped a SC stage 2 from a roll, numerous times. I was only trapping 107mph. It did sound good as I passed him though...
Old 10-04-2010 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
When my car had bolt-ons, I raped a SC stage 2 from a roll, numerous times. I was only trapping 107mph. It did sound good as I passed him though...
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Similar story.
Guy in the vegas z club here had a stillen s/c installed on his z (since then he removed it and sold it). We were on the freeway heading home after a meet and he decided he wanted to do a roll on run with me. So we did and i pulled on him pretty hard as if he did not even try. I talked to him at the next z meet and asked him why he did not run me when he asked me to. He said he gave it all it had and i walked away from him like he was standing still. i thought to myself holy fawk that thing is slow. The stillen sounds cool thought!!!!

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Old 10-04-2010 | 11:12 AM
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Even Keith (SuperchargedG) agrees that Stillen has the best sounding FI kit:..........As Keith would say.."who needs powa when you have good sound"!!:




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Stealing Stage 2 Kit
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if you make your own hood you can use the much bigger M112 blower. Then you could give any of the other FI options a run for their money.



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