IMO, unless you are Sasha and want to make a kit for production, you will spend more time and money piecing things together to get what, in the end, is not going to be any better in terms of performance than an off the shelf setup.

 

This is very true. Here is a quick run down:

Turbo: $1000 (PTE)
FMIC: $400
W/G : $250 (tial)
BOV: $250 (tial)
Injectors: $400 (550cc)
Fuel pumps $100
Exhaust piping/flanges: $500 (all stainless)
IC piping/couplers/clamps: $450
Oil pump (if remote mount): $350
Oil pan spacer: $120

Total: $3820 or so if you pay retail for all the parts.

Then there is all the hardware, air filter, brackets, oil lines, fittings (water lines),...ect and all of this will add up to another $300 before you know it. That would bring you to about $4100, and you are now within a few hundred dollars of an already built kit.

On top of that you need fabrication tools, welder, grinder, place to build it..ect. If you are already set up for it, then you are ok. There are also consumables like welding rod, cutt off wheels, polishing pads, argon (if tig welding)...ect that I am not adding in to the build.

NOW, if you are going to buy an ebay turbo, ebay FMIC, ebay BOV, ebay W/G, galvanized piping...ect you can probably bring that $4200 down to under $3000. But then you have a cheap and possibly unreliable kit, and you don't trust it to go for a 3 hour road trip.

There are other things you can save money on, like used fuel injectors, used pump, maybe a used FMIC.

Like many have stated here on this forum, it is not as cheap as you may think.

I am not saying don't build your own kit, by all means, I like to see what others come up with. Just saying that it will cost more than you may think.

 

Could not have said it better.

 

AMEN!!!!

people are stupid that think they have the turbo and they can boost something. There is a reason your friend gave it to you for free: it's not worth squat. You could pick those things up on ebay for 300$ or even less.

Turbos are cheap. Plus a turbo that was too small for a 2.4L engine is going to be WAY to small for a 3.5 liter engine.


just as a comparison. I have 28 grand and change into my car. My turbo cost just over 900$ brand new off the shelf. Turbos are cheap.

 

Not denying anything of what you all said, and yes, the turbo is rather small considering it is meant for a 2.4L engine- I was honestly just throwing it out there as a "hey, would this be worth it?" And I've got the message that it isn't, but honestly, I don't have 4K to just buy a kit outright. The military pays decent, but not decent enough. Is it possible to buy a kit part by part until I have everything I need?

Also, I should say that I'm not trying for HUGE gains in the performance of my Z, I just want a few extra ponies to play around with. So this is another reason why I was asking if it would be worth it.

I caveat this with the fact that I CAN install a kit myself- that isn't something I'm worried about, just the money involved with buying a kit straight up.

 

It is going to cost more than $4000 even if you piece it together... You can't just bolt a turbo on and make power, you need gonna need tuning, fuel system upgrades, some guages, a clutch.. its not cheap man.

 

You have 2 options. 1: turn off the traction control n drive ***** out.. That will be plenty to " play around with"

2: if your serious hit up Sasha@BP I've heard talk of payment plans. He's a good Guy n knows his shiet!

Either way nothing comes easy. If you want it bad enough you'll get it....

 

OMFG fail.

OK... first thing is first. WHAT TURBO IS IT? You still haven't said. I will promise you right now that anything under a 35R is too small (hell, even a 35R is too small by itself for a VQ35 IMO) and a waste of time unless you have two of them to put in. If it IS a 35R or above and you're fine with only one turbo next thing to look at is the orientation of the turbo and seeing if it matches the orientation of single turbos used in 350Zs. Reason being is that if it matches the only thing you'll need to do is buy any kit already available minus the turbo so you don't need to worry about the cost of custom fabbing parts. If it doesn't match, just do yourself a flavor and sell the turbo. Put the money made (which won't be too much) towards a kit made for your application.

Next thing is NO turbo used in any kit for any Evo is meant for a 2.4l engine. They're all meant for 2.0l engines, since that is what a 4G63 is from the factory.

 

Also, if you just want a few extra ponies to play around with, look into nitrous.

 

my guess whole be, why waste your time and energy to re-engineer something when it has been done for you. why reinvent the wheel.

 

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OP are these the mods you have?

If so look into getting a tune from Uprev, Lighten the car up a bit. Invest some money in the suspension. Track your car with the power as is, you'll find its plenty to go right out of the box. If you really want more power save up for a kit. Sell the 16g and tune your car with the money!

 

I have other mods, to include lightening of my car.

**** nitrous.

I said the turbo was for his Evo 9- and it is the stock setup, he is giving me pretty much everything he didn't sell on craigslist.

I understand that the orientation is different.

You know what, f*** this, Mods close the thread please. Obviously there are too many f***tards out there to actually give sound judgement- and to those of you with ACTUAL and USEFUL information, thank you.

 

And yes, I understand the cost will be the same if I buy it out right, or piece it together. I am not worried about the price, I am saying I am worried about the price all at once (not all at once is easier to manage financially).

 

You DID say the turbo was for his Evo IX, but never said the TYPE of turbo... do you know how many turbos there are for Evo IX's?

Now that you say it's the stock setup, it'll be worthless for a Z. Too small a turbo for the displacement, unless it's been upgraded to a Red or Black and you have two of them.

The best advice you're gonna find in this thread is mine. My advice... sell it.

 

I don't doubt that yours is the best, but I must admit, I had hopes that people would be less rude- guess that is what you get when people's e-peens get in involved.

 

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So the people who are top designers and racers tell you what to do and WE'RE the ****tards? wow, good way to get on people's good sides.

You do'nt contribute to our forums and you come in here and tell us you have no money and want to custom fabricate a tiny cheapo turbo on this car so you can blow it up.

You got your answer, it's pointless.

So you can't pay for it all at once which is understandable. Where along the lines did the greedy moronic people of america forget how to save? You want a payment plan well here is a payment plan: put your cash in your savings account until you have enough money. By then something even better would come along and you'll have an even better setup when you go to buy it. Rome wasn't built in a day so stop acting like a child.

 

It makes sense, I just have a different mentality. I am all about backyard builds and sourcing up used working parts . Most would say my way is unreliable and such, but im going on 3 years and counting with my home made setup.
Just to give an idea of what I spent on mine.
Good used holset: $250
piping <$100
welding ~$150
IC $200
BOV $100-$200
WG $200
Scavange pump $150
DW 600cc $250
$300 for random parts.

Total ~$1,800.

The only ebay parts are IC, some mandrel bent piping, and thats it. WG bought brand new retail since we know thats an essential part, Tial 50mm got for cheap through here actually, holsets are proven to be reliable and can output as much power as a $1000+ turbo depending on which you get.

 

So I'm a greedy moron for asking a question I didn't know the answer to, and apparently am not able to save money?

So where along the lines did egotistical *******s decide that they knew everything and forget how to answer a question without a narcissistic reply?

Why don't you get some psycho therapy, you've obviously lost touch with your own humanity. I am willing to bet you were raped or something when you were younger, it isn't your fault, he was the bad person- not you.

 

You got a FREE turbo! That's unbelievable!
Slap that thing on and crank up the horsepower.
Save up for some tires, you'll be burnin through them like toilet paper.