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Old 11-05-2011, 03:06 AM
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i currently have Utec as my engine management, i had this from when i was supercharged. There is a local shop around here that tunes Osiris very well, but is it worth it to switch to osiris when i already have utec?? or should i just save up a little bit and get a haltech? Reliability is key right now, i just spent a lot of money on a built longblock from dynosty, and the last thing i want to do is to blow my motor. My build already costed way more than i had anticipated so i dont know if i should switch to osiris or keep my utec?? i will post pics of my build soon. any feedback is greatly appreciated. thanks

my mod list are:
Stage 1 longblock from Dynosty
ARP L19 headstuds
ARP mainstuds
Eagle Rods
CP pistons 8.5:1
Greddy Twin turbo 18g
Megan Resonated Test pipes
HKS exhaust
ACT street disc clutch
Walbro Fuel pump
DW 600cc Injectors
Motordyne Plenum Spacer

I still need to get a fuel return and a bigger fuel pump, but for now my goal is 450whp. Can i get there safely without a fuel return??

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Yes you can make 450.
Old 11-05-2011, 06:19 AM
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Go at leaset with Uprev or even better Haltech. Ditch the Utec please.
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Originally Posted by VQ35deMax
Go at leaset with Uprev or even better Haltech. Ditch the Utec please.
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i have the same set up but whats bad about the utec? i was thinking the same about going osirus
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Originally Posted by cocobrotha76
i have the same set up but whats bad about the utec? i was thinking the same about going osirus
They have been known to fail and cause battery drain and/or busted pin outs. Also, depending on the tuner and mod list you can get a rough transition when coming off the gass under boost.

I HATED my Utec when I had it. It did not fit my driving style in the least and the transitions were always rough. Uprev is easy and will take you to ~500whp.
Old 11-05-2011, 07:28 AM
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Osiris FTW. And your goal is achievable.
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utec is ok but id go uprev..
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truthfully it's almost a better value to get one of these haltech's on here that are used. 1200$ for a used haltech. Osiris would be 300$ for a basic license, then 300$ for a boost controller (aem is 300$ i think), 400$ for a dual wideband setup, 240$ for the upgraded MAF sensor. All that and it's about equal in cost and you still don't have the ability to adjust things yourself, all the added features, closed loop boost control, data logger....

so, it sucks, but honestly i would just get a base tune on the utec and not spend money until you save up to get the haltech. Nothing wrong with osiris but you will need extra things on top of it to control a big setup (boost controller, widebands) so you are going to spend more money on top of the cheap cost of the license.

About the fuel, at least put one of the new 340 fuel pumps in there and you should be good for fuel. No need for the return fuel system yet but if you want to control fuel pressure the stage zero CJM is a nice setup and around 400$
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Where in Washington are you getting your build done?

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Originally Posted by binder
truthfully it's almost a better value to get one of these haltech's on here that are used. 1200$ for a used haltech. Osiris would be 300$ for a basic license, then 300$ for a boost controller (aem is 300$ i think), 400$ for a dual wideband setup, 240$ for the upgraded MAF sensor. All that and it's about equal in cost and you still don't have the ability to adjust things yourself, all the added features, closed loop boost control, data logger....

+1

I wanted to say the same thing to the guy with the 637whp G37 by forged thread.

HKS ev6 is about $600, plus the install into the dash
Innovate WB or similar is about 200-300
Upgraded mafs and reflash, 600?
total of about 1500 to have 3 stand alone systems.

The haltech was about 2400 but it comes with the WB and BC and its all built in. Add in a AEM boost gauge so that the gauge and Haltech read the same value and you will have a very nice system.

Reflashes and locked ECU's are not for me. The haltech GUI is so nice to use and with the new IO box you have so many other cool features.

Get at least the DW300 pump. Walbro 255 is old school.
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^ Werd.

I'd get a CJM Stage 0 FRS, they are less then $500 and now would be the time to install.
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Originally Posted by binder
truthfully it's almost a better value to get one of these haltech's on here that are used. 1200$ for a used haltech. Osiris would be 300$ for a basic license, then 300$ for a boost controller (aem is 300$ i think), 400$ for a dual wideband setup, 240$ for the upgraded MAF sensor. All that and it's about equal in cost and you still don't have the ability to adjust things yourself, all the added ifeatures, closed loop boost control, data logger....

so, it sucks, but honestly i would just get a base tune on the utec and not spend money until you save up to get the haltech. Nothing wrong with osiris but you will need extra things on top of it to control a big setup (boost controller, widebands) so you are going to spend more money on top of the cheap cost of the license.

About the fuel, at least put one of the new 340 fuel pumps in there and you should be good for fuel. No need for the return fuel system yet but if you want to control fuel pressure the stage zero CJM is a nice setup and around 400$
Troof...

I've read the debates which always come up but seriously after all the uprev money spent it jus works out better with a Haltech and the ability to switch it up urself.... Get ur funds right and get one!

Nothing wrong with uprev I would jus plan ahead if u wanted to go bigger....

And clearly that motor can handle 450+


Fuel pump solution, walbro 400 lph from Dynosty problem solved!

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Originally Posted by Cux350z
+1

I wanted to say the same thing to the guy with the 637whp G37 by forged thread.

HKS ev6 is about $600, plus the install into the dash
Innovate WB or similar is about 200-300
Upgraded mafs and reflash, 600?
total of about 1500 to have 3 stand alone systems.

The haltech was about 2400 but it comes with the WB and BC and its all built in. Add in a AEM boost gauge so that the gauge and Haltech read the same value and you will have a very nice system.

Reflashes and locked ECU's are not for me. The haltech GUI is so nice to use and with the new IO box you have so many other cool features.

Get at least the DW300 pump. Walbro 255 is old school.
Maybe he wants his car maf tuned vs map. I know I do
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Originally Posted by ace32x
Maybe he wants his car maf tuned vs map. I know I do
what would be the benefit?

choosing one method over the other is just personal taste. Personally I can't see why someone would chose maf tuning over map due to ease of use with map but even saying that is still opinion.
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Originally Posted by binder
what would be the benefit?

choosing one method over the other is just personal taste. Personally I can't see why someone would chose maf tuning over map due to ease of use with map but even saying that is still opinion.
preference mang im not a fan of map after seeing so many subies blowen up front it from tuners who arent that great. i have a good tuner locally (osiris) which is maf based so its what ima stick with. we have had this debate like 2 other times lol

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Originally Posted by ace32x
preference mang im not a fan of map after seeing so many subies blowen up front it from tuners who arent that great. i have a good tuner locally (osiris) which is maf based so its what ima stick with. we have had this debate like 2 other times lol
eh, the blown up engines are from poor tuning not the tuning method so i wouldn't correlate the 2.
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Originally Posted by binder
eh, the blown up engines are from poor tuning not the tuning method so i wouldn't correlate the 2.
but they are one in the same lol, bad tuner with a good platform still = blown motor.
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Originally Posted by Czarrr
Where in Washington are you getting your build done?

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i got all my work done at ishii motor industries in bellevue. they are very good and price is very reasonable as well.


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