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Old 09-21-2012, 07:35 PM
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hey guys, got this oil pan used and it did not come with any hardware . I was wondering if any of you could help me out with the bolt thread and length numbers. I have attached a few pics. There are 7 on the outside, 3 long in the middle and the drain plug. thanks
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Will the stock bolts work? I know I will need to get longer ones for the 3 in the middle.
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Hope you got a good deal on it. Obtaining the hardware is going to be a pain.

You also need the oil pickup spacer, did not see it in the pics.
Looks like you can use the stock hardware for most of the bolts.

For the other three:
You could probably take one bolt out of your oil pan without it leaking.
Take that one bolt with you to the hardware store. Its metric so go to a place with a lot of hardware offerings.

With a caliper measure the length of the bolt you removed, probably on the order of 15mm. Then measure the thickness of the spacer body and add that to the length of your bolt. Buy that and maybe some that are +-5mm.

For the two oil return ports, just test a few at the hardware store to get the pitch and diameter right. Since those look to thread into a open ended flange, the length will not matter too much. Just make sure you account for the mating flange and if the tube has any kind of interfering angle youll want to have the correct length so you can actually get the bolt in the hole.

The tap on the side is probably some form of npt, 1/2" most likely.

Working on your gauge plate today in cad..hopefully will have something done.
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thanks for the input man. it was free, it came with my used TT kit. What is the pick up spacer your talking about? Im on the same page as you with the bolts, thats what I plan on doing. The side tap is for a drain plug right? Sounds good on the gauge plate..cant wait!

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Hope you got a good deal on it. Obtaining the hardware is going to be a pain.

You also need the oil pickup spacer, did not see it in the pics.
Looks like you can use the stock hardware for most of the bolts.

For the other three:
You could probably take one bolt out of your oil pan without it leaking.
Take that one bolt with you to the hardware store. Its metric so go to a place with a lot of hardware offerings.

With a caliper measure the length of the bolt you removed, probably on the order of 15mm. Then measure the thickness of the spacer body and add that to the length of your bolt. Buy that and maybe some that are +-5mm.

For the two oil return ports, just test a few at the hardware store to get the pitch and diameter right. Since those look to thread into a open ended flange, the length will not matter too much. Just make sure you account for the mating flange and if the tube has any kind of interfering angle youll want to have the correct length so you can actually get the bolt in the hole.

The tap on the side is probably some form of npt, 1/2" most likely.

Working on your gauge plate today in cad..hopefully will have something done.
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It may be worth just picking up a Greddy pan that is for the kit. Will come with all hardware, etc.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-Oil-Pan-...&forceRpt=true

see the blue piece? It spaces out the oil pick up tube so that you can actually get the extra oil your adding.
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-Oil-Pan-Spacer-03-06-Nissan-350Z-Infiniti-G35-3-5L-/180960190880?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true

see the blue piece? It spaces out the oil pick up tube so that you can actually get the extra oil your adding.
got ya. that makes sense. if you dont have the spacer it cant suck the oil your adding. I wonder if you can buy those separate? I emailed z1 to see if they have any..

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Originally Posted by Ruthless18x
It may be worth just picking up a Greddy pan that is for the kit. Will come with all hardware, etc.
yea thats always an option but I have this one, I can make it work.
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will these work well with that pan? http://www.ebay.com/itm/OIL-RETURN-D...29ebdb&vxp=mtr

use one on each side of the pan and then run some 90s with 10an fittings.
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The out side bolts should be the same. Need 3 longer bolts, which will be easy to measure. As stated, you need the spacer for the oil pick up as well as the longer bolts for that.

Buying this kit used, shouldn't it have come with the fittings for the oil returns?
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Originally Posted by Escobar
will these work well with that pan? http://www.ebay.com/itm/OIL-RETURN-D...29ebdb&vxp=mtr

use one on each side of the pan and then run some 90s with 10an fittings.
Missed this post. Those should work as long as everything is the right size. I believe the passenger might be easier with a straight fitting instead of a 90. I may be wrong. I think mine had 45s so a 90 or straight would have been easier. But it has been months since I've last seen it. Run the lines and are which will work out better for you. Becomes very tight when you have to get to those fittings.
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Originally Posted by graffkid732
Missed this post. Those should work as long as everything is the right size. I believe the passenger might be easier with a straight fitting instead of a 90. I may be wrong. I think mine had 45s so a 90 or straight would have been easier. But it has been months since I've last seen it. Run the lines and are which will work out better for you. Becomes very tight when you have to get to those fittings.
yea, thats true. Im pulling the engine so I will just see how it looks when I get it on there I guess. I have plenty of hose and fittings, just have to make the right lengths.
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Since the pan does not have the APS logo on it, but looks similar, it may be the AAM pan. They may still have the hardware you need. Also, I know I got replacement bolts for my APS pan from Lowe's when I sent them out for powdercoat. As far as the spacer, you may want to give Hill's Garage in MD a call, Frank may have the spacer and bolts to sell you.
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Originally Posted by Cass007
Since the pan does not have the APS logo on it, but looks similar, it may be the AAM pan. They may still have the hardware you need. Also, I know I got replacement bolts for my APS pan from Lowe's when I sent them out for powdercoat. As far as the spacer, you may want to give Hill's Garage in MD a call, Frank may have the spacer and bolts to sell you.
yea I noticed it had no markings on it, I was told it was the greddy oil pan but clearly its not. I will call Frank, thanks for the info. Are you guys sure I will need the spacer? I didnt think this pan was deeper, just wider than stock??

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found the pan on ebay haha. It doesnt come with the pickup spacer. I guess it doesnt need one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230854376212...witem=&vxp=mtr
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i would lay both pans flat on the ground and make sure they are the same height/depth.
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Originally Posted by Escobar
found the pan on ebay haha. It doesnt come with the pickup spacer. I guess it doesnt need one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230854376212...witem=&vxp=mtr
good call! Forgot that this is a replacement and not a spacer.
Pickup wont be needed if its the same depth. Guess it uses the saddlebags for the extra qt.
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
good call! Forgot that this is a replacement and not a spacer.
Pickup wont be needed if its the same depth. Guess it uses the saddlebags for the extra qt.
yep, it appears that way
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
i would lay both pans flat on the ground and make sure they are the same height/depth.
definitely. thanks for the help once again guys.
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That pan looks like it gains capacity from side to side and not from being lower. So you might not need the pickup spacer. As str8dum1 said measure the depth to be sure.


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