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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 12:33 AM
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ahhh...youre up...I had a very late skate (I'm a goalie) tonight...

DO NOT TRUST ME!! Anything I say, you should take it with a grain of salt and double check with someone that you can shake his/her hand. I'm just a puke behind a macbook...But I will do my best to help you as others have helped me...even if it hurts.

yes, you are in no mans land...tread carefully...

the $100 is cheap insurance to have a uninvolved mechanic look at the car...ESPECIALLY if you are going to boost a OEM 100k block.

Yes, you will rev the **** out of it when you get that feeling of being pushed back in your seat...

Greddy will not remove the intercooler, but if you buy the setup, the intercooler may be worth selling to someone...I'd still tell you to just find a supplier of high quality aluminum duct...talk to your fabricator...do what he says!!

oh no, that book is not expensive...you know what is expensive...ignorance!!!! If you get the pdf, do yourself the favor and print it out, read it, highlight it, re-read, google things you don't understand, re-google things you don't understand, re-read sections, highlight stuff, and big picture, use it as a reference!! I keep a highlighter in my copy...although I'm no longer supercharged, I bought his supercharged book as well...(where I'm going is that you need to begin the education process...it's gotta start somewhere and everyone before you has, so you might as well start now)...off to bed, the gf is pissed!!

lastly...there are a bunch of dicks on this forum and I don't know how thick your skin is...but listen to everything they have to say. They are much smarter than me and you can learn a lot from them.

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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 04:23 AM
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***big note: You will have to get new, shorter exhaust manifold studs and nuts if this package did not include them. OEM are too long for the greddy manifold design.

my buddy and I are finishing up a built short block exchange and turbo rebuild for the greddy 20g kit on my car. There are a lot of things that go with the kit that you may have not gotten. Greddy did some R&D to make everything fit mostly 1 way and 1 way only considering where the turbos sit. Use the pdf instruction manual for reference to help. If you are getting custom piping done i recommend selling the greddy IC and trying to get a vertical flow intercooler setup fit in. It will save on some of the headache of the charge piping. Do not forget oil feed and drain lines.



It sounds like a fun project but don't cheapen out on supporting mods. I recommend a fuel return and don't bother with UTEC. Haltech or similar.

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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 08:14 AM
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How do you plan to adapt the turbos to bolt to the Greddy 3 bolt flanges on the manifold? There's a steering joint on the driver side that narrowly missed the Greddy turbo, better make it compact.
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 08:18 AM
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kinugawa makes a lot of turbos and turbo parts for MHI style turbos...so my guess is they have a similar housing. Hope they are external wastegate.
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 09:55 AM
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I believe the Greddy 3 bolt flanges are proprietary for Greddy, and not Mitsubishi. Unless the turbos were made as a Greddy replacement, I dont think they are going to bolt up.
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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Kinugawa sells the greddy style 3 bolt housings for both TD05h and TD06 turbine variants, last I checked (all are external WG). I think they're only available in 8cm² though, not sure what stock greddy is. I've been wondering when someone would start trying these parts.. A billet 16g with the STS 9 blade turbine should easily both out spool and outflow a standard 18g setup.


FWIW, I started using Kamak parts in my turbos about 6 years ago. It's surprisingly good stuff (I've never had any parts fail). They were the first to offer the Holset-style upgraded thrust system for MHI turbos that IMO should be used in every single rebuild. Greddy/MHI turbos are very old tech nowadays. They're a stout platform, but there's a lot of good new aftermarket wheel tech for them now that few people in this community seem aware of.
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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Oh I see, so they are specifically supporting Greddy stuff. Well thats sort of cool then, more options for everyone.
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk2
Oh I see, so they are specifically supporting Greddy stuff. Well thats sort of cool then, more options for everyone.
Yes the guy I bought them from was gonna do the build and he said he never got around to it and they've been sitting for a year in the box. They will bolt up.
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kilogram
Kinugawa sells the greddy style 3 bolt housings for both TD05h and TD06 turbine variants, last I checked (all are external WG). I think they're only available in 8cm² though, not sure what stock greddy is. I've been wondering when someone would start trying these parts.. A billet 16g with the STS 9 blade turbine should easily both out spool and outflow a standard 18g setup.


FWIW, I started using Kamak parts in my turbos about 6 years ago. It's surprisingly good stuff (I've never had any parts fail). They were the first to offer the Holset-style upgraded thrust system for MHI turbos that IMO should be used in every single rebuild. Greddy/MHI turbos are very old tech nowadays. They're a stout platform, but there's a lot of good new aftermarket wheel tech for them now that few people in this community seem aware of.
I have heard great things about them. They are mostly used in Europe and japan areas with great success. They don't have as big of a foothold in the USA.. Yet
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by suprasam
***big note: You will have to get new, shorter exhaust manifold studs and nuts if this package did not include them. OEM are too long for the greddy manifold design.

my buddy and I are finishing up a built short block exchange and turbo rebuild for the greddy 20g kit on my car. There are a lot of things that go with the kit that you may have not gotten. Greddy did some R&D to make everything fit mostly 1 way and 1 way only considering where the turbos sit. Use the pdf instruction manual for reference to help. If you are getting custom piping done i recommend selling the greddy IC and trying to get a vertical flow intercooler setup fit in. It will save on some of the headache of the charge piping. Do not forget oil feed and drain lines.



It sounds like a fun project but don't cheapen out on supporting mods. I recommend a fuel return and don't bother with UTEC. Haltech or similar.
Good info. Thank you. I will keep that in mind. I think it will be a fun build as well but also a big pain haha.
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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you going to buy my haltech or not? lol
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 06:51 PM
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Cux - you should put together a package for the OP...what are you looking to get for the Haltech? You including the wide bands too?

OP - post pictures of the turbos/headers when they come in...help us help you...
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 03:02 AM
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Nah no widebands....you can get those from Dynosty. Just the haltech, harness, brackets and clips. I have a FS thread on here.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 07:57 AM
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Parts are in. Everything looks beautiful. Turbos look absolutely great. I will post pictures hopefully later when I get a chance. Wish you could just upload off your phone. Talking to a guy who's coming out to look at all the parts and give me a quote on custom ic piping.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 08:26 AM
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What are the specs on the turbos? Are they standard 18g replacements or do they have some of the new wheels in them?

BOV $200?
I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but a lot of us stopped running blowoff valves on turbo cars a long time ago (they're still absolutely necessary for superchargers, as the compressor needs to be unloaded during cruise/idle). They're primarily an NVH device, and secondarily an emissions device. They do not help boost response between shifts (they actually hurt it) and they do not prolong turbocharger life by any significant amount that I've ever seen. There is no reason at all to run one on a low boost (<20psi) system, and I'm dubious whether they're beneficial on high boost systems.

Read more here. I won't debate it in this thread, since it gets verbose and complicated. I'll discuss it by PM if anyone is interested though...

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Old Aug 19, 2014 | 06:37 AM
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Sorry guys I have been really fricken busy.. Full time job. Full time classes, it sucks. On the good side. I just picked up a utec turbo xs for 200 bucks. Wasn't my first choice but I'm not spending a couple thousand. The intercooler piping I'm starting to mock up myself. I will post pictures tonight or tomorrow
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Old Aug 19, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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UTEC is fine if it's tuned properly AND you don't have a flaky unit. One of my VQ's has seen over 80k boosted miles (135k total) with UTEC and a greddy 18G kit. Still puts down 440whp at 8.5psi even with some leaky turbo seals.

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