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Old 02-27-2009, 08:54 AM
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I thought this was interesting... Edmunds took both cars to the same dyno (at different times, though).

The peak HP between 5 - 7k rpm are about the same... but the peak torque of the Hyundai is significantly better and flatter (about 20+ ft-lbs). I would bet a 370Z dyno would be almost the exact same as the G37 dyno. Interesting...

Hyundai Genesis:



G37 coupe in red (335i in blue):

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What does this all mean!!! .. The HyundaI is a better car therefore i will buy one because it has a few more ponies up top

Its an ok looking car, but i would never buy one personally..
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those dynos are awkward......


the 335's turbo die way early
Old 02-27-2009, 09:18 AM
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I'd still take the Z
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Look at the torque curve on the Genesis!

I wish the 3.7 had a curve like that.
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the genesis has a 3.8L ...
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Originally Posted by Zrated
Look at the torque curve on the Genesis!

I wish the 3.7 had a curve like that.
That's kind of awkward. All of the shop dynos I've seen of the 3.7 have had a very flat tq curve.
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Originally Posted by omegamanex
the genesis has a 3.8L ...
Compared to the 3.7 in the G37???

That's... let's see... only 2.7% more displacement? No big deal.


Bottom line, even though the G37 makes a little more power waayyy up top, the Genesis torque numbers are impressive.

I still don't want one, but it IS interesting... I have always said the new 3.7 liter was a let-down, considering VVEL and all the other goodies... HP is nice but the torque is uninspiring. Nissan needs to get to work on DFI, pronto.

For better comparison, the HP curve up top mimics the G37, but here is the Genesis Torque overlayed in green:
Attached Thumbnails Dyno comparison for G37 vs. Genesis-dyno_chart_500_2.jpg  

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Doesn't the genesis have a V8 in it? That would give you the answer for the tq line being flatter dispite the displacement.
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Originally Posted by captj3
Doesn't the genesis have a V8 in it? That would give you the answer for the tq line being flatter dispite the displacement.
Yes. And a rocket booster.
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The Sedan get an optional V8 the sedan gets the V6 as an option with a base I4 turbo.
Another dyno chart.
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Originally Posted by trebien
I thought this was interesting... Edmunds took both cars to the same dyno (at different times, though).

The peak HP between 5 - 7k rpm are about the same... but the peak torque of the Hyundai is significantly better and flatter (about 20+ ft-lbs). I would bet a 370Z dyno would be almost the exact same as the G37 dyno. Interesting...

Hyundai Genesis:



G37 coupe in red (335i in blue):

If you are comparing these two independent dyno's, its not a valid comparison.

Luckily, Edmunds did do a head-to-head dyno comparison chart shown below.

The VQ37VHR makes much better top-end power (where it matters in WOT acceleration). But the Hyundai 3.8 makes great low-end power which is great for DD. I find it a little suspicious though because the VQ37VHR has been proven over and over to have a flat torque line from 2500 to almost redline.


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Old 02-28-2009, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by captj3
Doesn't the genesis have a V8 in it? That would give you the answer for the tq line being flatter dispite the displacement.
the sedan does the coupe comes in a v6 or 14 turbo. if i bought one ide only buy the turbo. thats how all the tiburon guys switching over feel also
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ha ha - it's called dyno operator variance. All depends where you start recording the run versus when you put your foot down to the floor.
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I love the Genesis sedan, but I think the coupe is disastrous. Does no one else think it looks like a Solara? And that sinking rear 1/4 window...disgusting.
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GUYS!!!
That is NOT a dyno of a Genesis Coupe!

The dyno clearly says its a 335i. As in a BMW 335i with twin turbos. Edmunds compared it on the dyno to the g37. They also did that with the g37 and genesis coupe , but that is not this dyno.
Did you guys really think the genesis with its naturally aspirated 3.8l would make 280 lb feet of torque at the rear wheels at 3000 rpm?

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Originally Posted by torquexrpm
GUYS!!!
That is NOT a dyno of a Genesis Coupe!

The dyno clearly says its a 335i. As in a BMW 335i with twin turbos. Edmunds compared it on the dyno to the g37. They also did that with the g37 and genesis coupe , but that is not this dyno.
Did you guys really think the genesis with its naturally aspirated 3.8l would make 280 lb feet of torque at the rear wheels at 3000 rpm?
um, the first dyno is just not showing up due to probably being from the host site, since this was posted so long ago...

oh and here is the link to the missing dyno..... http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...mb-555x351.jpg deleted by edmunds...

please pay attention to dates before bumping threads

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Old 09-27-2009, 05:33 PM
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the bmw is always faster. comeone 1500 dollars on the twin tubo and youll be pushing 400+hp
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Originally Posted by ndnboy9517
the bmw is always faster. comeone 1500 dollars on the twin tubo and youll be pushing 400+hp
RSX is teh fast though
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