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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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i've searched through the threads and found that some have camber problems with the eibachs and some don't. I can't seem to get a clear answer. I have the springs at hand but i don't know if I should install them yet since tires cost a grip same with the camber kits.

so those with the eibach springs, what are you camber specs? and are your tires still wearing out normally?

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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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i've searched through the threads and found that some have camber problems with the eibachs and some don't. I can't seem to get a clear answer. I have the springs at hand but i don't know if I should install them yet since tires cost a grip same with the camber kits.

so those with the eibach springs, what are you camber specs? and are your tires still wearing out normally?

thanks
What happens is that we do not have adjustable camber. I installed mine a few months back and got it aligned. The guy said the alignment was off very little and I shouldt' worry about it. I think it's off by about 5%. I posted the before and after settings somewhere in here. Just keep your tires rotated every 10,000 miles or so and all tires will wear evenly. No sweat. Just do it, it makes the car look really good. My kit advertised a 1.2" drop, but after I drove the car, I measured about 1.5" drop.
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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its hard to say go for it w/o corrective camber pieces. all z's are different & some cannot be brought close enough to spec after dropping. another thing to note is that you push toe out a good deal when lowering the car as well. the more you go over 1" drop the more you take a chance of not getting the toe into spec. the more you try to correct camber the more your toe goes out, you just run out of adjustment. plus the fact that you could have extreme uneven specs from left to right, meaning you may have .5* difference left to right w/o having the needed adjustment on the z to correct. heres how i see it. my 19" toyo t1s tires were around $800 for the set & all the camber pieces i purchased were just less than that. the camber pieces are a one time purchase & just about guarentee that you can get your alignment perfect everytime. the tires that get uneven wear will need replacing every 5k to10k(if your lucky) miles depending on the alignment specs you get. i did not want to take this chance......the call is yours. new tires every xx miles(much less than the tire life expectancy) or one time purchase of camber arms & max life from your expensive tires......im only trying to state my situation & thoughts, some dont realize the potential problems they may introduce..........best of luck!

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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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If you lower your car, your camber will be different. If your camber changes, your tires will wear differently. That's just the way it is, Whether or not someone looks at is as a problem is up to them. They all have negative camber though.
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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dont listen to ppl that says the camber problem is little and shouldn't be cared for because with the eibachs, it really throws off your camber bad. you can obviously tell by how the wheel tilts in. This will eat up your tires like theres no tomorrow.

The problem with our cars is that there is no front camber adjustment for the front wheels, so there is pretty much nothign you can do, but buy a camber kit for the front. especially with the eibachs, 1.2 inch drop.

The rears however can be adjust back to factory specs, but this is only true for drops under .75 for the rear. .9 will be pushing it.

my friend installed eibachs on his black g35 coupe and the camber was so bad, he had to buy a camber kit right away.

as for the guy that said, "rotate your tires"

how?front and rear are different sizes..
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by g35thanh
dont listen to ppl that says the camber problem is little and shouldn't be cared for because with the eibachs, it really throws off your camber bad. you can obviously tell by how the wheel tilts in. This will eat up your tires like theres no tomorrow.

The problem with our cars is that there is no front camber adjustment for the front wheels, so there is pretty much nothign you can do, but buy a camber kit for the front. especially with the eibachs, 1.2 inch drop.

The rears however can be adjust back to factory specs, but this is only true for drops under .75 for the rear. .9 will be pushing it.

my friend installed eibachs on his black g35 coupe and the camber was so bad, he had to buy a camber kit right away.

as for the guy that said, "rotate your tires"

how?front and rear are different sizes..
You are right, when I posted I was refering to my G Sedan. Since coupes and Z's are staggered, you cannot rotate. I do stand corrected.
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Like I stated before. A one time purchase of camber arms or multiple purchases of tires more often than needed forever!

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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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whats different, on my car, I got everything back to specs. I also read some people having no problems slapping the springs on. Seems like if I needed a camber change, it would be for the rear. But I don't, I like a little negative camber in my life.
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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whats different, on my car, I got everything back to specs. I also read some people having no problems slapping the springs on. Seems like if I needed a camber change, it would be for the rear. But I don't, I like a little negative camber in my life.
i dont know about Zs, but g35s dont have a camber adjustment for the front wheels, so i really dont see how you can get it back to stock specs when you cant adjust them at all??
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Originally posted by myz8a4re
Like I stated before. A one time purchase of camber arms or multiple purchases of tires more often than needed forever!

-justin
Or you could just get rid of the staggered tires and run the same size all throguout and be able to rotate. Of course, you would probably be able to only rotate front to back unless you can find some non-directional tires.
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wht not go with the tein s-tech's ?? do they need a new camber to ?? or what about the H&R ..
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There is no camber adjustment on the Z or G35's on the front end. The rear there is but it is very limited.
Our front arms allow for easy adjsutment on the front end and our rear kit will be out shortly.
Our arms are the same ones we race with in the Grand AM Cup Endurance series........
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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I have the Eibachs. Had the fronts rotated @ 24K miles. They are loud again and need to be replaced at 30K. I'm happy with the ware I got out of them with the springs.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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Of course there will be a camber issue, but it's not too bad. I added the Kinetix rear camber kit (Ebay, cheap) on my sedan and it's now within spec. My tires are not wearing badly at all, and I do not have a front kit. The fronts are not within spec but close, and IMHO a little neg. camber helps the car stick anyway. I've got 31K on the original Bridgestones, I may see 35K before they need replacing. There is a little more wear on the inside, of course. I would not hesitate with the Eibachs...the positives far exceed the negatives.
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there are no negatives to the eibachs if you get the camber arms....lol! its how you look at it. i would hesitate if you have concerns about uneven tire wear, if not then just slap 'em on.......i recomend the comber kits front/rear on all cars to get the best alignment possible since the rear is very limited & with the fronts theres just no adjustment........your call! best of luck!

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eibachs produced -1.2 camber on front and -2.5 camber on the rear, Kinetix camber and toe rods on the way

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350EVO front control arms.....
$850!
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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Anyone have camber problems with the other brands of springs? If no, what do you have?
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You can also purchase these for the rear tires. This website also sells a toe and camber bolt (not rod) combo. I wonder if this will make the adjustments that we might need. It looks like they have the toe AND camber bolts (for the rears) for only $90, which is pretty cheap.

Also, Cusco was supposed to come out with front camber arms that are ~$400 sometime in November. Has anyone heard anything about this?
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