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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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By stock I mean I want to see a stock dyno and then a comparrison. I would like to see the V5 compared to the spacer on an otherwise stock car.

What do you mean by ecu reset? You unplugged the negative cable on the battery for alittle while to "reset" the computer?

I would really like it if the "designer" would give his own input on some of my questions also.

I wasn't really worried about peak values even though they are on the high side. It is just as I look at the overall graph I see many inconsistancies. There are areas in the graph especially in the area I pointed out in my earlier post that bother me. When I look at the AAM spacers dyno and then compare it to this one things just don't add up.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by JAMESZ
By stock I mean I want to see a stock dyno and then a comparrison. I would like to see the V5 compared to the spacer on an otherwise stock car.

What do you mean by ecu reset? You unplugged the negative cable on the battery for alittle while to "reset" the computer?

I would really like it if the "designer" would give his own input on some of my questions also.

I wasn't really worried about peak values even though they are on the high side. It is just as I look at the overall graph I see many inconsistancies. There are areas in the graph especially in the area I pointed out in my earlier post that bother me. When I look at the AAM spacers dyno and then compare it to this one things just don't add up.
He's just a tester. You're going to need to talk to Hydrazine on 350zmot oring.com (no space in between 350zmot and oring.com, it will censor the website) to see about more product info and getting someone to do a base dyno with a stock Z/G35c.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by nis350ztt
He's just a tester. You're going to need to talk to Hydrazine on 350zmot oring.com (no space in between 350zmot and oring.com, it will censor the website) to see about more product info and getting someone to do a base dyno with a stock Z/G35c.
Thats why I said I wanted the "designer" to reply to my questions. I understand that he is a tester; that is specifically why I stated that I would like the "designer" to reply in my last post.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by JisNis
How did you order the item? Did you just pm or email him? Let me know, I'm very interested.
On the other site mentioned above, I PMed Hydrazine, he sent me a price and I paid with paypal. There is a lot more information the other site as well.

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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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There is a lot more information the other site as well.
Where is the information? I went to the other site and he is even more vague about the spacer.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by JAMESZ
By stock I mean I want to see a stock dyno and then a comparrison. I would like to see the V5 compared to the spacer on an otherwise stock car.

What do you mean by ecu reset? You unplugged the negative cable on the battery for alittle while to "reset" the computer?

I would really like it if the "designer" would give his own input on some of my questions also.

I wasn't really worried about peak values even though they are on the high side. It is just as I look at the overall graph I see many inconsistancies. There are areas in the graph especially in the area I pointed out in my earlier post that bother me. When I look at the AAM spacers dyno and then compare it to this one things just don't add up.
James, take a look at the dyno charts from the Church Automotive Dyno day that I linked in the first post. The shape of the charts may be due to the dynapack measuring power differently than the traditional dynojet. Since my last dyno was from the dynapack, that's why I went to the same place again.

I think you should talk with Hydrazine if you have more questions. I don't know if he posts much here. The reason why I posted it here, was because the agreement was a free spacer in exchange for dynotesting and posting the results on the major g35 and 350z forums. I'll try and answer questions about this last weekend's dyno testing, since I was there and saw everything with my own eyes. Outside of that day, I'll reserve judgment on.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20122
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by JAMESZ
Thats why I said I wanted the "designer" to reply to my questions. I understand that he is a tester; that is specifically why I stated that I would like the "designer" to reply in my last post.
The designer doesn't post on this forum, that's why I said to go to 350zmoto ring.com and pm him or post on the thread.

http://www.350zmotoring.com/forums/s...threadid=20887

http://www.350zmotoring.com/forums/s...threadid=20780

http://www.350zmotoring.com/forums/s...threadid=20122
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by nis350ztt
The designer doesn't post on this forum, that's why I said to go to 350zmoto ring.com and pm him or post on the thread.

http://www.350zmotoring.com/forums/s...threadid=20887

http://www.350zmotoring.com/forums/s...threadid=20780

http://www.350zmotoring.com/forums/s...threadid=20122
hydrazine dynos several spacer heights on motoring. I think the thread is called "header and plenum spacer results" or something like that.
by censoring, do you mean part of the name will be ***d out?
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Z BOY
hydrazine dynos several spacer heights on motoring. I think the thread is called "header and plenum spacer results" or something like that.
by censoring, do you mean part of the name will be ***d out?
http://www.350zmotoring.com <that should get censored. So I did 350zmot oring.com
Hmm, it isn't getting censored, I saw it get censored in another thread.

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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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It's probably not being censored. If a user doesn't meet a certain number of posts, then they can't post URLs.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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just ordered my 1/4 spacer from motordyne...
for under 200$ your get nice gains...keep the stock plenum and the stock anti-roll bar

just what everybody was asking for

and since the spacer is 1/4 all around...no problem with bolt stripping
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by mart32
just ordered my 1/4 spacer from motordyne...
for under 200$ your get nice gains...keep the stock plenum and the stock anti-roll bar

just what everybody was asking for

and since the spacer is 1/4 all around...no problem with bolt stripping
So if a problem with bolts stripping doesn't exist because it is a "1/4" sapacer all around then why did they strip? And the gains still aren't proven I personally would like to see more dyno graphs before anyone can come to any conclusion.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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correct me if i'm not right but from what i have read, poeple are confused between the two different spacers available ( AAM and Motordyne).
the first one is angle so the bolt from the upper plenum do not align with the holes of the lower plenum...

but if your have 1/4 spacer all around with the same size of bolt and same bolt tread .... why would it strip
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by mart32

but if your have 1/4 spacer all around with the same size of bolt and same bolt thread .... why would it strip
I was thinking the same thing.

It is apparent though that E K has had this plenum apart numerous times, even before he got the spacer, so there is no telling when it started happening.

Does anyone know if Nissan recommends anti seize on these bolts?

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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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The stock mounting equipment was never designed to have a 1/4in spacer there. The problem then lies with the extra disitance the stock threads are near the max at this point. If you go to the first post they admitted having stripping problems so if you still don't understand why; just understand that it does.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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he removed and reinstalled the plenum many times to do the polishing, which i believe led to the stripping.
kinetix plenum install instructions include using blue threadlock, so it sure couldn't hurt.

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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Z BOY
he removed and reinstalled the plenum many times to do the polishing, which i believe led to the stripping.
I remove parts on my Z like that all the time, and I have yet to have any stripping issues.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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maybe he didn't pay close attn to proper torquing of the bolts? If you crank on those, they will cause stripping.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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actually the bolt head will break off, you won't strip the threads in the lower plenum.
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