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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Hey guys, how much whp are we talking about when we compare a average set of test pipes vs a average set of high flow cats? How big of a difference is the noise?
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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If you get resonated tp's the noise is the same. NA its maybe 2-3whp peak and some midrange-tp's having the advantage, I dont know what other reason than for emissions (in this case learn to do the swap yourself) anybody would spend $400 on hf cats when you can buy tp's for 1/2 and gain more. And boosted tp's do 15+whp more than hf cats its been posted.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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I with I had some objective numbers, but I know of none. Test pipes will get your a couple more horsepower than high-flow catalytic converters. For noise, test pipes are a couple of db louder.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Depending on the your modifications but usually its very minor for a NA car...maybe around 2-3 whp top from my experience.

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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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So if you have full exhaust and stock cats, your telling me the difference between resonated test pipes and high flow cats isnt much?
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Correct. High-flow catalytic converts are reasonably free flowing. Better than OEM catalytic converters, but not quite as good as test pipes.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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as much a i want to get TPs i dont wanna deal with the smell.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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What would have more gains? Test Pipes or HFC with Aftermarket exhaust and y pipe if your N/A? Because i heard aftermarket exhaust doesn't give that much gains either and i dont wanna get exhaust and test pipes cause that might be too loud for my taste. So what you guys think would give better gains? Test Pipes or HFC and Aftermarket exhaust and Ypipe for N/A??

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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by o snap its eric
as much a i want to get TPs i dont wanna deal with the smell.
how? you stick your nose at your muffler?
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubble
how? you stick your nose at your muffler?
roll down both windows at the red line .......you don't need to stick your nose in there.....try it and tell us how you feel .....
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Originally Posted by GAaaAR
What would have more gains? Test Pipes or HFC with Aftermarket exhaust and y pipe if your N/A? Because i heard aftermarket exhaust doesn't give that much gains either and i dont wanna get exhaust and test pipes cause that might be too loud for my taste. So what you guys think would give better gains? Test Pipes or HFC and Aftermarket exhaust and Ypipe for N/A??
If you don't want loud, bad fume or rasp.....just got with the HFC.........
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Originally Posted by StarcraftBW
If you don't want loud, bad fume or rasp.....just got with the HFC.........
Yea but if im going test pipes im probably going to go with resonated ones such as the labrees resonated test pipes. I dont mind the fumes much and i dont think the test pipes would be all that loud if i stick with a stock exhaust setup. I just want to kno which one would give better gains test pipes or aftermarket exhaust + HFC on a N/A setup? Im deciding to do one or the other, what do you guys suggest? Cost doesn't matter by the way, just tryin to get the most gains with basic bolt ons without setting off car alarms when i drive by.
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Originally Posted by GAaaAR
What would have more gains? Test Pipes or HFC with Aftermarket exhaust and y pipe if your N/A? Because i heard aftermarket exhaust doesn't give that much gains either and i dont wanna get exhaust and test pipes cause that might be too loud for my taste. So what you guys think would give better gains? Test Pipes or HFC and Aftermarket exhaust and Ypipe for N/A??
Horsepower vs noise. Why not select one of several more quiet cat back exhausts. Many recommendations in this forum.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv
Horsepower vs noise. Why not select one of several more quiet cat back exhausts. Many recommendations in this forum.

Even quiet exhaust will be loud if you have test pipes on. Especially when i have headers also. I dont think i ever heard anyone say they have headers, test pipe, and exhaust setup without the car being loud.
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Originally Posted by GAaaAR
What would have more gains? Test Pipes or HFC with Aftermarket exhaust and y pipe if your N/A? Because i heard aftermarket exhaust doesn't give that much gains either and i dont wanna get exhaust and test pipes cause that might be too loud for my taste. So what you guys think would give better gains? Test Pipes or HFC and Aftermarket exhaust and Ypipe for N/A??
The HFC/y-pipe/exhaust will obviously have more gains because you're getting rid of a higher amount of restrictive piping. Unless you mean either test pipes or HFC's. Then the test pipe combo will yeild more.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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just get the resonated test pipes (i would go with labrees)and a ypipe. that combo will get you the best gains for the money. changing the midpipe will make it louder and changing the muffler is primarily cosmetic. so if you are happy with what the oem exhaust looks and sounds like, you really only need res. test pipes and a ypipe.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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I think HFC's are better suited for CA because our emissions laws are rediculous. Oh by the way I picked up a white 06 Enth. model yesterday from performance nissan. Thanks performance nissan!
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
I think HFC's are better suited for CA because our emissions laws are rediculous. Oh by the way I picked up a white 06 Enth. model yesterday from performance nissan. Thanks performance nissan!

congrats on your z!

hfc's are a good option but technically they are still illegal. you are not suppose to change your cats with anything other than an oem cat unless your car is past a certain age (which doesn't apply to us). but the chances of getting caught is probably very slim.
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Damnit California, change these emissions laws!
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
Damnit California, change these emissions laws!
i think arnold has bigger problems to worry about.
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