i can guarentee that when ure suckin in air, its already in a turbulent flow. fluid moves faster when it is in turbulent state. if anything, this thing will slow it down cause it will create a more uniform flow. anyone have thoughts about this?

 

You can buy the stickers seperate at

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-METALLICA-NI...QQcmdZViewItem

But carefull, sticker is almost as "expensive" as the "full kit"

Danny

 

Ohhh man!! I have to return the one i ordered... The one you found is not only cheaper but it produces even more HP and better milage!!!

"The Vortex Generator can give your car up to 20% more horsepower, as well as increase fuel efficiency by up to 35%"

Thats almost 60hp(!!!) extra for the Z!!! Wow, that is almost as much as the HKS Super Charger kit gives at 5psi's boost, but that costs like $8.000...

I have to ask the guy having the auction if its RW HP or crank HP!

/Roger

 

In our plastics recycling plant, we transport shredded plastic pieces by air through tubes. There are "cyclones" on those machines to bring the air in a uniform turning (swirling?) motion (before the platic parts are added to the flow). This way, the air with the plastic parts in it, moves quicker through the tubes and takes the curves easier without "hitting" the walls of the tubes.

Gun barrels are "rifled" so that the bullet turns when it comes out of it, to give it better stabulity in flight. Don't know if that's a good analogy???

When water goes down the drain, it swirls down, maximizing speed and efficiency passing through the tubes. How about that one???

Danny

 

Doesn't 20% more at crank equal 20% more at RW ? I mean, it's percentages not absolute numbers...

Danny

PS: this is actually a serious question.

 

yeah, that is true. However the HP gained from the turbonator at the wheels will be less than the MAXX POWER HP gained at the crank.

 

Exactly, how many ponnies does this badboy pump out on the wheels!

The vortex theory is true and im sure it works to a certain degree, BUT to go from a straight flow to creating the vortex takes energy (in this reducing the speed of air), so you loose some and gain some.

Obiously if this extremly cheap and simple setup did acctually produce even slight gains this would be implemented in all manufacturers (and aftermarket) intakes.

/Roger

 

In my 350z I gained a good 30hp on the butt dyno and instantly noticed I get better gas mileage than some of those hybrid cars. I'm now at 50mpg

I heard a long time ago from the civic forums(used to have a civic, was going to drop a prelude engine in my hatchback), that some people have had the turbonator thing break and metal shards fly into the throttle body. None of the civic enthusiasts bought this turbonator, they agreed it was a POS. I mean look at the design of the thing, a piece of aluminum that is bent and one part of it looks pretty weak. Also when you're bending metal like that it tends to weaken it. Add in the force of the air flowing through the intake and I doubt it would hold up.

 

I think we're discussing on an academic level if the thing actually would/could/might work to some small extend. I don't think any one of us is considering installing one... he11, maybe I'll install one and dyno my car before/after

You're absolutely right mentioning the lousy quality of that thing, you would put a disaster waiting to happen in your intake.

Danny