True. I remember the day and the numbers.

 

I wish you did this with a spacer as well

 

Do you remember your TQ before and after??

The SSV does seem to make HP but lost TQ.

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Aceman

 

Thanks Hydrazine

Maybe you could send me out your spacer and the ported lower plenum and i can throw that on there and see what it does

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Aceman

 

Of course Sungnam says the SSV is for FI-his only gains were mostly if not all from his Vortech tune and not the SSV-and he rocks SSV like lower than usual TQ numbers to boot. I love the guy who now say something like "well over 500hp the SSV would do better" Yeah whatever, its junk, when somebody proves it at the 500hp level, you'l start hearing "well its mostly for 700hp+ applications" LOL @ some people. Bump for the independent testing

 

what ported lower plenum did you use? i want one haha!

 

One that i ported myself

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Aceman

 

You need to consider what the manifold was intended for. There is only one design and it is for turbocharged applications. There are many factors that can play a role in determining the flow characteristics of the manifold. Ex. cams, head, boost, turbo, etc.... This test, although was a nice idea, shows me nothing since I am boosted.

To me, this is like dropping in a set of 8:5:1 compression pistons and comparing them to 10:5:1 and seeing what the result would be at 15psi.

 

Im sorry, but not to be rude.

This test was not done just for you

This test was done to see what it did on a NA car. I do not have FI and said nothing of FI in the post nor did i post it in the FI forum.

Thanks

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Aceman

 

aceman want to port my lower plenum?

 

I thought it was posted a long time ago it doesnt make power on a NA car.

 

Kinetix claims decent gains on NA cars though, and this proves it loses power in this specific application. I have yet to see something like an exhaust ,test-pipes, or others plenums not work on NA and work on FI. If anything you'll see small gains NA, and much bigger gains FI, I wouldnt spend $800 on this thing, but to each his own.

 

Maybe it was posted, i never seen the post nor the dyno graph.

I like to see it for myself, rather than listen to the hear say. I dont live my life on hear say, i need facts.

And now i know.

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Aceman

 

hey aceman want to port my lower plenum? lol

 

Thank you for the dyno comparison. You wouldn't happen to have the actual dyno files for each run, would you?

 

I do not have the files. MSP has them stored on their dynojet computer though im sure.

 

No hard feelings taken. I understand what you where trying to do. But this is iterated for the folks that claim no gains on FI, where no comparisons have been made.

Any gains that are made n/a will be quantified in FI. I don't care if it is 8-12hp. Just imagine what gains will be made with tuning and f/i. I can easinly see another 20-30hp.

 

Just another option and reminder . . .

The latest crawford cast plenums have a larger opening for those of you running some sort of ported throttle body. While it does not make a world of difference, its better than the stock plenum opening, especially if you run the ported TB. If you are inclined to do some more dyno trials it would be interesting if you could find one to try. Needless to say we have done them, but nothing is better than private trials like these.

Oh and like aceman said if you increase your MAF tube your car will have issues . . . it took lots of trial and error with em ultimate to adapt a larger MAF housing.

 

Hey there Vandyz

What is the size of the opening on your plenum?

The Ported Throttle body i am using now is 2mm oversize at 72mm, with the inlet enlarged to 78mm.

And i would also like to get a larger MAF housing to see what kind of gains i could get out of using that. I do have the UTEC, so i believe i could get everything to work with time on the dyno

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Aceman

 

The V5 did really well over stock with a nice gain through out the power band.

The SSV actually did worse than stock. If you look at the end of the dyno there is a blip which makes the SSV have higher HP. Which it did not, it was a error on the dyno.


STOCK = Blue
Kinetix V5 = RED
SSV = Green

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Aceman