MREV2 on Intakes
10-01-2006, 10:27 PM
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The factory airbox has proven its worth. It is a great intake, especially on the 2006 models with the improved velocity stack.
The popcharger is a slight improvement upon the 2006 box, but it sucks in too much hot air. It's greatest value is while you're driving at highway speeds... but if you are at idle for too long it heats up much faster than stock and you lose power.
The popcharger is a slight improvement upon the 2006 box, but it sucks in too much hot air. It's greatest value is while you're driving at highway speeds... but if you are at idle for too long it heats up much faster than stock and you lose power.
10-02-2006, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ken350z
WOW!!! Good news.... Send your test results.
PopCharger shows 4.5 - 5.5 HP to the rear wheel - with stock everything. Add a 1/2" or 5/16' spacer and it goes up about 1.5HP is effectiveness.
The Stillen showed a constant 10.2 - 11.8 HP gain on stock, and retained and/or gained HP in the low end as well. After the spacer addition, it went up to 18 HP with the 1/2" spacer.
The Injen intakes are great too - but you WILL sacrifice button end. They almost matched the Stillen in all areas - about 2HP behind. With a modded motor, heads and cams, the Stillen beats all - almost a 24HP gain. BUT you will loose bottom end. If your built, have gears, etc, the Injen is the way to go. If your stock and only bolt on's - Stillen hands down.
However - by the time you add every bolt-on to your car, and tune it, etc...you can just buy a Vortech for an additional $1,000, maybe, and beat all those combinations by 100+HP.
All of my tests were done as true before and afters - so I know what the intakes did with and wihout spacer, and what the spacers did with and without intakes or other mods.
Rick
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10-02-2006, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ISMSOLUTIONS
The results are pretty simple.
PopCharger shows 4.5 - 5.5 HP to the rear wheel - with stock everything. Add a 1/2" or 5/16' spacer and it goes up about 1.5HP is effectiveness.
The Stillen showed a constant 10.2 - 11.8 HP gain on stock, and retained and/or gained HP in the low end as well. After the spacer addition, it went up to 18 HP with the 1/2" spacer.
The Injen intakes are great too - but you WILL sacrifice button end. They almost matched the Stillen in all areas - about 2HP behind. With a modded motor, heads and cams, the Stillen beats all - almost a 24HP gain. BUT you will loose bottom end. If your built, have gears, etc, the Injen is the way to go. If your stock and only bolt on's - Stillen hands down.
However - by the time you add every bolt-on to your car, and tune it, etc...you can just buy a Vortech for an additional $1,000, maybe, and beat all those combinations by 100+HP.
All of my tests were done as true before and afters - so I know what the intakes did with and wihout spacer, and what the spacers did with and without intakes or other mods.
Rick
PopCharger shows 4.5 - 5.5 HP to the rear wheel - with stock everything. Add a 1/2" or 5/16' spacer and it goes up about 1.5HP is effectiveness.
The Stillen showed a constant 10.2 - 11.8 HP gain on stock, and retained and/or gained HP in the low end as well. After the spacer addition, it went up to 18 HP with the 1/2" spacer.
The Injen intakes are great too - but you WILL sacrifice button end. They almost matched the Stillen in all areas - about 2HP behind. With a modded motor, heads and cams, the Stillen beats all - almost a 24HP gain. BUT you will loose bottom end. If your built, have gears, etc, the Injen is the way to go. If your stock and only bolt on's - Stillen hands down.
However - by the time you add every bolt-on to your car, and tune it, etc...you can just buy a Vortech for an additional $1,000, maybe, and beat all those combinations by 100+HP.
All of my tests were done as true before and afters - so I know what the intakes did with and wihout spacer, and what the spacers did with and without intakes or other mods.
Rick
10-02-2006, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
Sorry to break it to you buddy but my stock 06' airbox works better than any aftermarket intake on this planet for my car. I don't know if it makes a difference with the 287's, but the REVUPS do not like aftermarket intakes. Stock airbox with drop in is the best intake for this engine.
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10-02-2006, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by savvy
what Stillen intake are you referring to? I have not heard anyone make this claim before
Check the G35Driver board as well...
Rick
10-02-2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ISMSOLUTIONS
Unfortunately that's not true...what research have you done or seen? Did you dyno and test multiple intakes and spacers on your car?
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There is a reason why all the top japanese aftermarket companies use stock airbox's for their vehicles. Cold air intakes are great marketing products that sell because of the special words included in the name, "cold air".
The stock airbox does wonders, it is perfectly designed. The only restriction I see is the stock air filter and the inlet for the stock airbox would work better with a ram air hose.
10-02-2006, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ISMSOLUTIONS
The results are pretty simple.
PopCharger shows 4.5 - 5.5 HP to the rear wheel - with stock everything. Add a 1/2" or 5/16' spacer and it goes up about 1.5HP is effectiveness.
The Stillen showed a constant 10.2 - 11.8 HP gain on stock, and retained and/or gained HP in the low end as well. After the spacer addition, it went up to 18 HP with the 1/2" spacer.
The Injen intakes are great too - but you WILL sacrifice button end. They almost matched the Stillen in all areas - about 2HP behind. With a modded motor, heads and cams, the Stillen beats all - almost a 24HP gain. BUT you will loose bottom end. If your built, have gears, etc, the Injen is the way to go. If your stock and only bolt on's - Stillen hands down.
However - by the time you add every bolt-on to your car, and tune it, etc...you can just buy a Vortech for an additional $1,000, maybe, and beat all those combinations by 100+HP.
All of my tests were done as true before and afters - so I know what the intakes did with and wihout spacer, and what the spacers did with and without intakes or other mods.
Rick
PopCharger shows 4.5 - 5.5 HP to the rear wheel - with stock everything. Add a 1/2" or 5/16' spacer and it goes up about 1.5HP is effectiveness.
The Stillen showed a constant 10.2 - 11.8 HP gain on stock, and retained and/or gained HP in the low end as well. After the spacer addition, it went up to 18 HP with the 1/2" spacer.
The Injen intakes are great too - but you WILL sacrifice button end. They almost matched the Stillen in all areas - about 2HP behind. With a modded motor, heads and cams, the Stillen beats all - almost a 24HP gain. BUT you will loose bottom end. If your built, have gears, etc, the Injen is the way to go. If your stock and only bolt on's - Stillen hands down.
However - by the time you add every bolt-on to your car, and tune it, etc...you can just buy a Vortech for an additional $1,000, maybe, and beat all those combinations by 100+HP.
All of my tests were done as true before and afters - so I know what the intakes did with and wihout spacer, and what the spacers did with and without intakes or other mods.
Rick
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2) Maybe gain a few hp over a couple hundred rpm increments in the curve, however such gains don't do squat for overall acceleration. You could gain 20whp from 6200-6500rpms and it would do nothing for acceleration.
10-02-2006, 11:56 AM
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how bout some real world dynos to back up the stillen claims...there have been plenty of pop charger proven results. the pop charger is slightly better than the stock air box with some of the results and tests i have seen posted on the boards.
10-03-2006, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Road Warrior
how bout some real world dynos to back up the stillen claims...there have been plenty of pop charger proven results. the pop charger is slightly better than the stock air box with some of the results and tests i have seen posted on the boards.
By the way - I don't sell any of these parts and have no other interest in Stillen to try and sway anyones decision...this is truly an independent test result..
Rick
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10-03-2006, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by savvy
are these big gains you are tlaking about just on the g35 or for the Z as well?
Rick
10-03-2006, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ISMSOLUTIONS
The gains are from a 350Z test car...the G35 gains were about 6% less.
Rick
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If you want, you can email me all the R&D work you did and I promise I wont tell anybody,
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