Raspinness = embarassement ?????
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The raspiness on my car has gone out of control. You guys can see all the performance I have on my Z at my signature. I don't know if something is going wrong with my exhaust set-up, but I need you guys inputs. Is anyone running a similar set-up on their Z's, what are your impressions?
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Is there anything I can do to my exhaust to reduce the raspiness. I was thinking like an H or X pipe welded into my true dual. What kind of performance I'm going to loose if I go this way.
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Originally Posted by jmr0311
The raspiness on my car has gone out of control. You guys can see all the performance I have on my Z at my signature. I don't know if something is going wrong with my exhaust set-up, but I need you guys inputs. Is anyone running a similar set-up on their Z's, what are your impressions?
Last edited by FastIntentions; Dec 3, 2006 at 08:26 AM.
Originally Posted by taurran
Get some high flow cats. You don't need test pipes without a forced induction setup, anyway.
Anyway, to minimize rasp, throw in a resonated X pipe and it'll become as quiet as it was prior to the TP and it'll be just as fast.
The problem is your catback or your test pipes depending how you wanted to look at it. The exhaust isn't controlling the exhaust note well enough to keep the rasp down. if you must keep the test pipes, put your complete stock catback on or get another catback that isnt' as raspy.
On the otherhand, if you put back in your stock cats, that would make up for the exhaust and would control the rasp.
IMHO, messing with n/a parts isn't even worth it. If I were you and wanted to run that exhaust, throw the stock cats back on and be done with it.
As was noted, an H-pipe would most likely help the situation.
On the otherhand, if you put back in your stock cats, that would make up for the exhaust and would control the rasp.
IMHO, messing with n/a parts isn't even worth it. If I were you and wanted to run that exhaust, throw the stock cats back on and be done with it.
As was noted, an H-pipe would most likely help the situation.
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Good advice and your right on the mark there. The thing that causes rasp is when you change the pulse and flow and the system can't handle it. Balancing the system better can help, via an X-pipe, which is best for our cars. A resonated X is even better, and likely a best choice, that won't harm performance.
The issue again, will be pipe size - honestly, with headers and the rest of your mods - you have the wrong catback in place. You need one that will handle the flow - and that will be a 2 1/2" system, like Tony wrote earlier.
Rick
Good advice and your right on the mark there. The thing that causes rasp is when you change the pulse and flow and the system can't handle it. Balancing the system better can help, via an X-pipe, which is best for our cars. A resonated X is even better, and likely a best choice, that won't harm performance.
The issue again, will be pipe size - honestly, with headers and the rest of your mods - you have the wrong catback in place. You need one that will handle the flow - and that will be a 2 1/2" system, like Tony wrote earlier.
Rick
For the guys that test, design and build this stuff, is there a rule of thumb regarding the exhaust note or performance hat coincides with:
1) True Dual
2) Two into 1
3) Pipe diameter on @ of the above
Realizing there are so many factors involved, I thought you may have found some consistencies in your testing. i.e. small pipe = higher pitch or single 3" dia = hp gain in lower RPMs and same power up top vs. a 2 3/8 dia.....or?
I used to do 2 stroke exhaust testing on my flat tracker short track bike and found that we could predict results relatively well after testing different designs. Need high end hp do this, need torque, do that type of thing.
1) True Dual
2) Two into 1
3) Pipe diameter on @ of the above
Realizing there are so many factors involved, I thought you may have found some consistencies in your testing. i.e. small pipe = higher pitch or single 3" dia = hp gain in lower RPMs and same power up top vs. a 2 3/8 dia.....or?
I used to do 2 stroke exhaust testing on my flat tracker short track bike and found that we could predict results relatively well after testing different designs. Need high end hp do this, need torque, do that type of thing.
Originally Posted by m1james@bellsou
For the guys that test, design and build this stuff, is there a rule of thumb regarding the exhaust note or performance hat coincides with:
1) True Dual
2) Two into 1
3) Pipe diameter on @ of the above
1) True Dual
2) Two into 1
3) Pipe diameter on @ of the above
1 - It flows better and will usually cover from about 250HP to upwards of 450-500HP - but dependant on pipe size, engine, and build and mods. Exhaust note here will depend on engine, build, mods and most importantly how the exhaust devices are built.
2 - Single exhaust - like our cars some with - good to a certain amount of HP, like #1 - also dependant on pipe size, etc. 3" single will perform very similarly to 2.5" dual - but with effective Xpipes, etc..the dual will do a better job of scavenging - and therefore, flow better.
I hope this starts or answers your question. There are lots of things to consider, to answer the question, and teh question was pretty general as well. I can give more - just let me know.
Also, check out this link:
http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Miscella...austtheory.htm
Rick
Originally Posted by ISMSOLUTIONS
MagnaFlow makes them....call Tony at the shop and he can send one out to you if you want.
Rick
Rick
Last edited by bofa; Dec 3, 2006 at 06:49 PM.


