RevUP motor w/ OEM NonRevUP lower collector and 5/16" spacer ???
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Anyone have the combination listed up in the title?
I've been searching for a couple days now and haven't been able to find a thread with dynos for a stock OEM non-revup lower collector installed on a revup motor with and/or without the 5/16" spacer or another plenum style mod.
As far as I understand the MREV2 is a 287HP lower collector + machining done on runners 1 and 2. Was wondering if the machining was a tremendous gain or not b/c I could just use the lower plenum and save some mad $$$ for now since they're floating around used everywhere. Taking it somewhere to get it machined a few millimeters in the right spots that appear restrictive may not be too much of an inconvenience.
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I've been searching for a couple days now and haven't been able to find a thread with dynos for a stock OEM non-revup lower collector installed on a revup motor with and/or without the 5/16" spacer or another plenum style mod.
As far as I understand the MREV2 is a 287HP lower collector + machining done on runners 1 and 2. Was wondering if the machining was a tremendous gain or not b/c I could just use the lower plenum and save some mad $$$ for now since they're floating around used everywhere. Taking it somewhere to get it machined a few millimeters in the right spots that appear restrictive may not be too much of an inconvenience.
Thanks.
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I received my MREV2 and spacer today
. I think I'm going to have my old lower plenum milled ported and polished and see what it does. It seem like if everthing was ported and polished it would help the air flow a lot more. it may be to much air flow.
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^ well I think your old lower plenum is a REVUP one so it's not quite the data I'm in search of.
I'm trying to find someone who put a MREV original (i.e. 287HP nonrevup lower collector) on a REVUP motor like yours is.
I'm trying to find someone who put a MREV original (i.e. 287HP nonrevup lower collector) on a REVUP motor like yours is.
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Huh?
For the rev-up, the best possible combination is the MREV2 + Spacer.
The MREV2 is just a modified non-revup lower plenum that works very well with the revup engine.
Nothing else to it.
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For the rev-up, the best possible combination is the MREV2 + Spacer.
The MREV2 is just a modified non-revup lower plenum that works very well with the revup engine.
Nothing else to it.
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Huh?
For the rev-up, the best possible combination is the MREV2 + Spacer.
The MREV2 is just a modified non-revup lower plenum that works very well with the revup engine.
Nothing else to it.
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For the rev-up, the best possible combination is the MREV2 + Spacer.
The MREV2 is just a modified non-revup lower plenum that works very well with the revup engine.
Nothing else to it.
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I'm trying to find dynos for a revup motors w/ an unmodified non-revup lower plenum.
w/ or w/out 5/16" spacer is fine. Just really trying to see whta can be gained by just using the unmodified lower plenum with a 5/16" spacer on a REVUP.
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Ask Tony. He probably has the #'s for the stock non revup and worked from there, as far as milling goes. I would guess he came to a point where he milled too far. But your best bet is to ask Tony because I've never heard or seen anyones post like the combo you'd like to see. GL
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Originally Posted by civic4982
I suppose I didn't make it clear.
I'm trying to find dynos for a revup motors w/ an unmodified non-revup lower plenum.
w/ or w/out 5/16" spacer is fine. Just really trying to see whta can be gained by just using the unmodified lower plenum with a 5/16" spacer on a REVUP.
I'm trying to find dynos for a revup motors w/ an unmodified non-revup lower plenum.
w/ or w/out 5/16" spacer is fine. Just really trying to see whta can be gained by just using the unmodified lower plenum with a 5/16" spacer on a REVUP.
It's been done (used to be called MREV), and it lost too much peak HP, which is why the MREV2 is now the standard. The MREV2 + 5/16" spacer barely loses any HP on the top end while it makes a lot of HP and torque in the midrange.
You can ask Tony (Hydrazine) but he'll tell you exactly the same thing.
By the way, the MREV2 is not just machined on runners 1 and 2, I believe it's machined in 2 other places as well...
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The better combination for the rev up guys out there is to use the MREV2 (modified lower collector from older 287hp engine), along with a spacer.
If you cannot afford the MREV2, then using the spacer AND a factory lower collector from the 287 hp non-rev-up engine will work well too.
You'll notice a big difference with EITHER of these two methods, not everyone can afford the MREV2.... The MREV2 does work, and works well, but it's just the end user's budget in the end. you won't gain as much from just a lower plenum + spacer swap as with the MREV2 but you can still notice a GOOD Gain by this combo too...
If you cannot afford the MREV2, then using the spacer AND a factory lower collector from the 287 hp non-rev-up engine will work well too.
You'll notice a big difference with EITHER of these two methods, not everyone can afford the MREV2.... The MREV2 does work, and works well, but it's just the end user's budget in the end. you won't gain as much from just a lower plenum + spacer swap as with the MREV2 but you can still notice a GOOD Gain by this combo too...
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
It's been done (used to be called MREV), and it lost too much peak HP, which is why the MREV2 is now the standard. The MREV2 + 5/16" spacer barely loses any HP on the top end while it makes a lot of HP and torque in the midrange.
You can ask Tony (Hydrazine) but he'll tell you exactly the same thing.
By the way, the MREV2 is not just machined on runners 1 and 2, I believe it's machined in 2 other places as well...
You can ask Tony (Hydrazine) but he'll tell you exactly the same thing.
By the way, the MREV2 is not just machined on runners 1 and 2, I believe it's machined in 2 other places as well...
I believe it's runner 5 and the corner of runner 6 as well as some other good quality work that they do.
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I found this. I can not remember where. If I recall it was on a 06 with a Pop Charger and Nismo Cat Back.
There is a before an after on it
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There is a before an after on it
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
Civic4982,
+1 to Wired24/7.
What you are proposing was the first generation MREV kit. Then there was MREV+ and now it is MREV2.
I found that additional gains can be made by modifying the lower manifold.
Tony
+1 to Wired24/7.
What you are proposing was the first generation MREV kit. Then there was MREV+ and now it is MREV2.
I found that additional gains can be made by modifying the lower manifold.
Tony
I was trying to find the deltas when using a 5/16" spacer b/t the MREV and the MREV2. Just having difficulty searching out the dynos that might show the band differences.
much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by civic4982
thanks.
I was trying to find the deltas when using a 5/16" spacer b/t the MREV and the MREV2. Just having difficulty searching out the dynos that might show the band differences.
much appreciated.
I was trying to find the deltas when using a 5/16" spacer b/t the MREV and the MREV2. Just having difficulty searching out the dynos that might show the band differences.
much appreciated.
mrev vs mrev+
and
mrev+ vs mrev2
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https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....rev+vs+mrev%2B^ I found the MREV+ vs. MREV2
but not the MREV vs. MREV+ on a REVUP motor.
anyone else found it yet?
but not the MREV vs. MREV+ on a REVUP motor.
anyone else found it yet?
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so update on this old thread:
I recently discovered the import tuner magazine special on the MREV2 and the 5/16" spacer seperately.
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/powe.../photo_14.html
Now I was looking at this dyno chart and it seems that with just the MREV2 the TQ and HP values cross the baseline and dip below it from 6200 or so RPM to the revlimiter. They were able to make the lines intersect at a higher point when using it in combination with the 5/16" iso thermal spacer. With the MREV2 in combination with the 5/16" spacer there was also a cross over to the power and tq loss sides after 6400RPM or so all the way up to redline.
Has anyone been able to figure out a way to make this cross a little higher up in the RPM range?
With this power drop being noticed would it be more reasonable then to be shifting at the range where power begins to drop significantly (dHP/dt and dtorque/dt) ???
I recently discovered the import tuner magazine special on the MREV2 and the 5/16" spacer seperately.
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/powe.../photo_14.html
Now I was looking at this dyno chart and it seems that with just the MREV2 the TQ and HP values cross the baseline and dip below it from 6200 or so RPM to the revlimiter. They were able to make the lines intersect at a higher point when using it in combination with the 5/16" iso thermal spacer. With the MREV2 in combination with the 5/16" spacer there was also a cross over to the power and tq loss sides after 6400RPM or so all the way up to redline.
Has anyone been able to figure out a way to make this cross a little higher up in the RPM range?
With this power drop being noticed would it be more reasonable then to be shifting at the range where power begins to drop significantly (dHP/dt and dtorque/dt) ???