XO2 Exhaust - Detailed Report (Installed Today)
Originally Posted by ReV2Red
Well, I suppose its time for someone with actual stainless experience to chime in. Just for reference i'm a marine engineer, and i work with stainless A LOT.
For starters, you can get get two exact same grades of stainless steels (SUS304 in this instance) and they can be of completelt different qualities. That's where the price of raw materials comes in. You can buy an SUS 304 tube of stainless from Britain or Turkey, but the one from britain will cost more than the one from Turkey. Why? Because of the quality of the ore used in making the steel. A perfect example of this was when our vessel went to have a whole load of piping for the engine room replaced in Turkey, and within the year it was all fuked. We then had the same work done in Spain the year later, using the exact same grade of steel, and it lasted almost 3 years before we started seeing signs of corrosion. This is the difference between HKS and XO2.
Next point, as the OP proved, XO2 have poor fitment and look like crap apparently. OK, so it may only happen to a few, but the fact is that it does happen, meaning the quality control is crap. You don't get that with HKS, and if you do, they will replace it free of charge.
Now here is a bold statement, if you look after stainless, IT WILL NEVER RUST. NEVER!! I've worked on boats that are over 25 years old, that live there life at sea, and you don't get a much harsher environment than that, and there stainless still looks like the day it was installed. So for that XO2 exhaust to have rusted like that in such a short time, only means that it's not stainless. It might be steel, but not stainless steel.
Another you get when you pay the price is a warranty. HKS gives a warranty on most of their products. The HKS exhaust is built to withstand the test of time. They will still be sitting on a car in 10 years time, and if looked after will still look great. The XO2, who know one guy may have it last 10 years too, but the next guy might only last 10 months. That is the difference. XO2 are not built to stand the test of time, there built to appeal to your wallet.
Every product that HKS makes undergoes long periods od endurance testing to make sure it's up to par before they put it on the market. XO2's clients are the testers for them.
Can you see the difference now. So all in all, the XO2 is an inferior product, and there's no two ways about it, but that's not what people care about. They want the cheap way to get power.
For starters, you can get get two exact same grades of stainless steels (SUS304 in this instance) and they can be of completelt different qualities. That's where the price of raw materials comes in. You can buy an SUS 304 tube of stainless from Britain or Turkey, but the one from britain will cost more than the one from Turkey. Why? Because of the quality of the ore used in making the steel. A perfect example of this was when our vessel went to have a whole load of piping for the engine room replaced in Turkey, and within the year it was all fuked. We then had the same work done in Spain the year later, using the exact same grade of steel, and it lasted almost 3 years before we started seeing signs of corrosion. This is the difference between HKS and XO2.
Next point, as the OP proved, XO2 have poor fitment and look like crap apparently. OK, so it may only happen to a few, but the fact is that it does happen, meaning the quality control is crap. You don't get that with HKS, and if you do, they will replace it free of charge.
Now here is a bold statement, if you look after stainless, IT WILL NEVER RUST. NEVER!! I've worked on boats that are over 25 years old, that live there life at sea, and you don't get a much harsher environment than that, and there stainless still looks like the day it was installed. So for that XO2 exhaust to have rusted like that in such a short time, only means that it's not stainless. It might be steel, but not stainless steel.
Another you get when you pay the price is a warranty. HKS gives a warranty on most of their products. The HKS exhaust is built to withstand the test of time. They will still be sitting on a car in 10 years time, and if looked after will still look great. The XO2, who know one guy may have it last 10 years too, but the next guy might only last 10 months. That is the difference. XO2 are not built to stand the test of time, there built to appeal to your wallet.
Every product that HKS makes undergoes long periods od endurance testing to make sure it's up to par before they put it on the market. XO2's clients are the testers for them.
Can you see the difference now. So all in all, the XO2 is an inferior product, and there's no two ways about it, but that's not what people care about. They want the cheap way to get power.
well said.
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