View Poll Results: What would be the best? (multiple choices available)
Stillen True Dual Exhaust
12
12.00%
Greddy True Dual Exhaust
15
15.00%
Borla True Dual Exhaust
56
56.00%
Injen SES True Dual Exhaust
19
19.00%
Amuse R1 Exhaust
14
14.00%
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Another Exhaust Comparison
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Originally posted by Nissan350ZTT
Failsaf3 said he gained hp across the entire powerband, he owns a Injen SES exhaust system, he should know...
Failsaf3 said he gained hp across the entire powerband, he owns a Injen SES exhaust system, he should know...
you know it03SilverstoneZ- need me to PM you the dyno's?
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Re: Another Exhaust Comparison
Originally posted by Nissan350ZTT
I am deciding which exhaust to get... the Injen SES, Borla True Dual, Stillen True Dual, or Greddy True Dual. I know the Greddy isn't available yet. Advantages of Injen SES, gives nice solid hp gains, sounds very nice, goes good with the intake, uses flanges, and angled tips (like on FI Supra's etc.). Disadvantage's of Injen SES, sounds ricey to some people, stainless steel so it's not the lightest, the tips are a little weird and big imo. Advantage's of Borla True Dual, okay hp gains, good warranty, and it sounds awesome also. Disadvantage's of Borla TD, clamps instead of flanges and looks cheap (then again who is going to see them?), doesn't utilize the "true dual" setup as Injen does, not as good of gains as thought. Advantage's of Stillen True Dual, looks nice, decent gains, sounds good. Disadvantage's of Stillen's TD, sort of doesn't utilize "true dual" setup, heard a couple of bad rumors, don't know what kind of connector's they use, sounds 'choppy' in one video of it. I don't know any advantages or disadvantage's of the Greddy TD because it is not out yet... What is everyone's opinion on what exhaust is best out of the one's I have given everyone to pick from? I just can't decide...
Added the Amuse R1 also...
I am deciding which exhaust to get... the Injen SES, Borla True Dual, Stillen True Dual, or Greddy True Dual. I know the Greddy isn't available yet. Advantages of Injen SES, gives nice solid hp gains, sounds very nice, goes good with the intake, uses flanges, and angled tips (like on FI Supra's etc.). Disadvantage's of Injen SES, sounds ricey to some people, stainless steel so it's not the lightest, the tips are a little weird and big imo. Advantage's of Borla True Dual, okay hp gains, good warranty, and it sounds awesome also. Disadvantage's of Borla TD, clamps instead of flanges and looks cheap (then again who is going to see them?), doesn't utilize the "true dual" setup as Injen does, not as good of gains as thought. Advantage's of Stillen True Dual, looks nice, decent gains, sounds good. Disadvantage's of Stillen's TD, sort of doesn't utilize "true dual" setup, heard a couple of bad rumors, don't know what kind of connector's they use, sounds 'choppy' in one video of it. I don't know any advantages or disadvantage's of the Greddy TD because it is not out yet... What is everyone's opinion on what exhaust is best out of the one's I have given everyone to pick from? I just can't decide...
Added the Amuse R1 also...
Your other option is to do a custom exhaust, which will save you some money but you ought to have someone you trust do it otherwise you could be wasting your cash.
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Re: Re: Another Exhaust Comparison
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You've got a lot more choices than those you've listed, such as my Power Enterprise, the Mine's Ti system and the new HKS legamax. You could also try Top Secret's Ti setup. It seems to me like most exhausts are gaining anywhere from 13-20 HP for a full cat-back system. Not a very big difference, if you ask me. The only one that didn't seem to be making power (I think) was the Weldina exhaust that came out last year.
Your other option is to do a custom exhaust, which will save you some money but you ought to have someone you trust do it otherwise you could be wasting your cash.
You've got a lot more choices than those you've listed, such as my Power Enterprise, the Mine's Ti system and the new HKS legamax. You could also try Top Secret's Ti setup. It seems to me like most exhausts are gaining anywhere from 13-20 HP for a full cat-back system. Not a very big difference, if you ask me. The only one that didn't seem to be making power (I think) was the Weldina exhaust that came out last year.
Your other option is to do a custom exhaust, which will save you some money but you ought to have someone you trust do it otherwise you could be wasting your cash.
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Just a thought
I've noticed a number of threads that refer to exhaust set-ups as being "not true dual" because they contain an x-pipe or an H-pipe in the configuration. Believe it or not, the existence of an X or H pipe doesn't impede exhaust flow. It enhances it. The momentary joining of the exhaust flow creates a suction that actually pulls the exhaust harder than if the pipes never joined (at least that is what the experts tell me). It's not like a Y-pipe where a 2 1/4" pie and a 2 1/4" pipe join into a 2 1/2" pipe that restricts the throughput (better back pressure, though).
Just my .02
I'm not promoting one exhaust or the other. Just giving more information.
Just my .02
I'm not promoting one exhaust or the other. Just giving more information.
Why does everyone have to flame a guy because he's putting out an opinion that's different then most? One of my biggest concerns about getting an aftermarket exhaust is the shift of peak HP towards the redline away from the midrange. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong but if i spent 700 to over a G for an exhaust I would be hard pressed to get online and start posting about what a big mistake i made doing it. I would rather hear from others who have experience with more than one and get their feedback before I buy. Another thing is maybe he was in a Z with the old Borla system that did reduce HP.
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Originally posted by jckolnturn
Why does everyone have to flame a guy because he's putting out an opinion that's different then most? One of my biggest concerns about getting an aftermarket exhaust is the shift of peak HP towards the redline away from the midrange. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong but if i spent 700 to over a G for an exhaust I would be hard pressed to get online and start posting about what a big mistake i made doing it. I would rather hear from others who have experience with more than one and get their feedback before I buy. Another thing is maybe he was in a Z with the old Borla system that did reduce HP.
Why does everyone have to flame a guy because he's putting out an opinion that's different then most? One of my biggest concerns about getting an aftermarket exhaust is the shift of peak HP towards the redline away from the midrange. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong but if i spent 700 to over a G for an exhaust I would be hard pressed to get online and start posting about what a big mistake i made doing it. I would rather hear from others who have experience with more than one and get their feedback before I buy. Another thing is maybe he was in a Z with the old Borla system that did reduce HP.
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I ordered my Injen Intake and SES Exhaust combo yesterday. I am guessing it will take 7-10 days to get to me. AHHHHHHH Hurry up. I will post install pics and as soon as it is broken in, one of my friends has some really good sound equipment so I will try to get some better quality sound clips to post!
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Originally posted by Nissan350ZTT
Because he puts it out like it is the only opinion or better yet, a fact. And in fact it is not. Don't act like a know-it-all and you won't get flamed, especially on your first post.
Because he puts it out like it is the only opinion or better yet, a fact. And in fact it is not. Don't act like a know-it-all and you won't get flamed, especially on your first post.
I am also skeptical about manufacturer's claimed gains. I've seen some promising dyno sheets showing some good gains, most especially thanks to Tere
, but its generally a smart idea to watch and wait for a while. Wait until the users get plenty of hard dynamometer data and see. Time will tell how well they all work.
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How about not flaming at all?
How about not flaming at all?
Originally posted by WashUJon
I am also skeptical about manufacturer's claimed gains. I've seen some promising dyno sheets showing some good gains, most especially thanks to Tere, but its generally a smart idea to watch and wait for a while. Wait until the users get plenty of hard dynamometer data and see. Time will tell how well they all work.
I am also skeptical about manufacturer's claimed gains. I've seen some promising dyno sheets showing some good gains, most especially thanks to Tere
, but its generally a smart idea to watch and wait for a while. Wait until the users get plenty of hard dynamometer data and see. Time will tell how well they all work.
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Look Guys I have the borla True Dual Exhaust and I have seen power gains across the board. Ive even had the Gen 1 exhaust the borla originally came out with and I still saw power gains. Ive done a dyno with every exhaust available, and my best overall gains with power, performance, and relibility was BORLA. I even went out and put on the borla headers and saw even more gains. Still to this day I havent seen a power loss in the curve.
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