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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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I am still looking to buy an exhaust, but with the current exhausts out, I have a problem with all of them right now, lol. Injen is angled and Borla might be too muscle carish. Now if Injen is straight (supposed to be coming out) and not fart canish, they might get my money. Now I wish Injen did offer a Ti version, but oh well.

I am looking for an exhaust that has a Ferrari sing to it. I don't want something all deep, I want something that is more exotic. Now I don't want to spend an arm and a leg on it. The Stillen is nice, but it is heavy. Veilside has a nice sound, but doesn't make any real power for the high price. I have researched as far as I can the exhausts that are out there, but there is noway to hear these things in person unless you buy them.

Now I know there are sound clips out there, really of only the injen and borla. But to be honest, these clips are limited by the computer speakers you are listening to them on. I would still love to hear some more of the options out there if anyone can post those sound clips, though.

I want something exotic, but not at exotic prices. I don't want a fart can or a muscle car. I want something that sounds like an F1 race car, Ferrari, Lambo, and such. Of course, I know I would have to buy those cars to have the sound of them, but you know what I mean.

So someone out there, tell me what to buy according to what I want!!!!!!!! I know the sound I want, but not the particular kind of exhaust. And BTW, sound is important, but the thing better make power or I am not buying it. I don't care who makes the exhaust, I just know the sound I want it to make and I want it to make power. Help!!!!!!!

Also, some type of FI is probably (hopefully) in the future, so take that into account.

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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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SHUT UP AND GET THE BORLA... enough already!
BTW - it sounds far away from muscle carrish...

It sounds more exotic - go check out Dr. Bonz recordings.
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Wait to hear the GReddy unless you don't like the look of it to begin with.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 05:36 AM
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Have you ever seen or heard Denis Leary's No Cure For Cancer? If so, allow me to update one of his lovely diddy's...

"borla borla borla... we love you, you giant ****in B!"
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 05:41 AM
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Have you heard the Amuse exhaust? it's titanium, and sound like an F-1 car...there was a sound clip somewhere on the forum, but i can't find it, maybe you'll have better luck...maybe the guy will repost it...
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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I think that amuse exhaust costs close to 2 grand - kind of pricey.

Rodney - you might want to wait a couple of months until the greddy and new injen exhausts come out. At least then you'll have more than a couple of options.

I think I'm going to go with with the borla and test pipes - at least according to everybody that has them it sounds badass. But it's about impossible to tell how it really sounds untill you put it on your own car.

If I get it on soon I'll let you know and you can check it out.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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This thread has a sound clip of the Ferrari Modena and a 350Z w/Borla. They sound EXACTLY the same!

Borla True Dual OFFICIALLY sounds like Ferrari
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:19 AM
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Why not wait for the Sport Z magazine exhaust shootout? I imagine most people here will put in a plug for the exhaust they currently have or are planning to purchase.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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try ansa they make the mufflers for the ferrari's
dont know if the make for 350 z, but i know they make it for the 300tt so maybe they can give u a time frame on the r&d of it
never know give them a call or check web site

www.ansaexhaust.com
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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Get the Borla or Stealin. They both make power and sound good. The Borla, however, is hundreds cheaper and way lighter and is just as good or better since it is way lighter.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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i say what's wrong with the veilside exhaust?

$1100.00 is not bad for a full stainless steel exhaust. It makes 12whp with just the exhaust bolt on only (no intake).

Don't be fooled by those ridiculous high #'s from other exhaust companies. Some companies measure from the crank, and others dyno test with other add on's such as intakes or remove cats. Also dyno's will vary upon conditions. Each car has different WHP so results for each exhaust for each car will vary.

Don't mean to get you more confused. I suggest to take into consideration, the quality, the company's past history, and what you want to see & hear every time you drive your car. don't rely on dyno charts that can be easily manipulated.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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Well, the biggest thing I have to figure out is the direction that I want to go with my car. Gotta love that borla price, and it is the one that is on my mind right now. The injen is a prospect, with straight pipes of course. $1100 is a lot of money when it is almost twice as much as the borlas, which probably have the same HP output.

The real interesting thing is that none of the exhausts on the market are turbo ready. They all are like 2.25 inch, while turbo usually work best with like 3 inch. Even the Greddy that is coming out is a 2.25 inch. You have to think that when they put out their turbo kit, they could come out with a different exhaust for it.

Not that I am have my mind made up on which direction I am going, but I am also taking any limiting factors with the exhaust that I pick. That borla price is enticing.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by little_rod
The real interesting thing is that none of the exhausts on the market are turbo ready. They all are like 2.25 inch, while turbo usually work best with like 3 inch. Even the Greddy that is coming out is a 2.25 inch. You have to think that when they put out their turbo kit, they could come out with a different exhaust for it.
Incorrect. Borla, Injen, or Stillen are most certainly turbo ready. Yes 3" inch is good when going turbo but keep in mind that these systems are all true dual. each turbo (assuming a twin turbo kit) will be flowing through it's own pipe. 2.25" is plenty for the CFM that a bolt on kit will flow.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod 350z
Incorrect. Borla, Injen, or Stillen are most certainly turbo ready. Yes 3" inch is good when going turbo but keep in mind that these systems are all true dual. each turbo (assuming a twin turbo kit) will be flowing through it's own pipe. 2.25" is plenty for the CFM that a bolt on kit will flow.
Thats what I was thinking its really like a 2.25+2.25= 4.5" =)
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:54 AM
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OT - What happened to our points? I was very proud of the fact that I had more points than people with double my amount of posts!
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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Well, I was told by a shop that if I am going to go turbo, don't buy any of the current exhausts out there. I understand what you guys are saying, and in theory, you are correct. But to get the best breathing possible, I still think you need bigger diameters for a turbo.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by little_rod
Well, I was told by a shop that if I am going to go turbo, don't buy any of the current exhausts out there. I understand what you guys are saying, and in theory, you are correct. But to get the best breathing possible, I still think you need bigger diameters for a turbo.
Qualify your shop and their knowledge. Ask them what PSI and CFM they are basing their opinion on. Ask them what turbos they are assuming and what experiences they've had with varying levels of back pressure and exhaust scavaging in terms of performance. Not that I'm doubting your shop, but just because a guy in a shop said something, that doesn't make it so. ****, I had a guy in a shop look to put my Audi S4 on a dyno for emissions testing. I told him he can't because it's AWD and he told me "all cars go on the dyno" nuff said.
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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Oh, I got ya. Yeah, the guy has a couple of decades of turbo experience. I talked to him about boost and such for like a couple of hours, he seems to know his stuff. The point they made was that you don't want the exhaust to be the limiting factor in the loop if you eventually want to go to high levels of boost. I don't care if you doubt them, lol, I will doubt anyone I know. I just want to know what is correct, regardless of the source. If they are wrong, by all means correct them.

Now I am not saying that I will go with a turbo, cause it would probably be high as heck, but I do want to keep my options completely open as far as the aftermarket parts I purchase being good enough for anything in the future.

BTW, I think the points were just when you start a trend, it was like a count of the hits on that trend. If you never started a trend, your points would be low.

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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by little_rod
Oh, I got ya. Yeah, the guy has a couple of decades of turbo experience. I talked to him about boost and such for like a couple of hours, he seems to know his stuff. The point they made was that you don't want the exhaust to be the limiting factor in the loop if you eventually want to go to high levels of boost. I don't care if you doubt them, lol, I will doubt anyone I know. I just want to know what is correct, regardless of the source. If they are wrong, by all means correct them.
They are absolutely right though, you don't want exhaust to be the limiting factor, you'd have to be running huge psi though to utilize 6"+ of piping
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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Talking Borla! Borla! Borla!

The "Devil made me do it"! No, it was actually a 16 and 19 year old. In conjunction with my 15,000 mile check, stock exhaust OFF...Borla ON! WOW! It's everything and then some. After about one (1) hour of driving...hated to bring it home and park it. Regret I waited so long. Next week will install "Grounding Kit" and "Injen Cold Air Intake".

What should I consider next?
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