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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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K&N Typhoon Intake $265


Ok, After beating my car (as always) and having this intake installed this is my review.

The sound - LOVE IT! Opens up at WOT and makes the engine sound Huge. You hear the filter pulling air in with a PSSSSP when tapping the throttle and you hear the ROAR when at WOT. A+ on the sound.

Performance - Car definatly pulls harder! Alot more then the first 100 miles of it being installed. Dropping it into 3rd at 75MPH throws me back harder in the seat then before and the rear end squats down under hard acceleration.

Look - The CF looks very cool in the engine bay and makes me want to make all my covers match it. The top part of it rubs on the hood foam stripping to a point where the clear part of the cover is rubbed off and it is now dull. It is only a small part, smaller then a dime.

What I dont like / feel comfortable with - The heat that the "cold air box" absorbs. The metal box gets HOT. So much you can not touch it for longer then a couple of seconds after driving for a while. The Snorkle Intake pipe gets warm. The tubing going up to the plenum gets hot but not so hot you can't touch it.



What I am going to check tommorow - I am going to take off the CF cover and see what is in the box. Because I was driving today and there was TUMBLE WEED on the 5 with little pieces flying everywhere as well as leaves and other things. I wonder if the snorkle tube directed the junk into the box.

We shall see what the cover is hiding tomorrow.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 01:38 AM
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Nice write-up Jas... I've been waiting for this product to arrive to market. Will await dynos to determine product worthiness.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 05:15 AM
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Does it come with a heat shield? You coud take a Injen heat shield and cover the stock heat shield.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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when are you going to have time to give us some dyno numbers?

thanks!
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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It comes with a heat shield pictured below, and has a carbon fiber look cover that goes over it.

The filter sits in this box.



Im going to get some numbers on Friday (the 5th)

Unfortunatly, I NEED to add the Tilton 8lb Flywheel so I can see if the clutch is now Street Worthy. Well, it is unfortunate because I want numbers with only the intake added and I know the Tilton is going to add HP / TQ to the rear wheels. But I cant wait to get the Tilton in my car!!!!!!!!

It does add something I can tell you that much. I cant tell you how much though, but the car does pull much harder up top.
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Old Dec 6, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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I'm not sure, but I think I speak for most.

We're waiting w/ baited breath for some dyno numbers.

Also any thoughts to what material the box could be made of to shield the heat ?

Maybe ceramic ? Tiles DO withstand heat - the newest break rotors are being made of ceramic and they have no fade due to heat.
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Old Dec 6, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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The "box" feels to be made of metal with some ceramic coating. It gets sooooooo hot you can barely touch it.. It is fairly thin to...

I am giong to be dynoing my car again soon,

I have added the Tilton Flywheel / Clutch and I am not sure if that is going to effect the HP numbers enough to show a difference.

If it does! WOO HOO!

The car does feel like there was a gain from only the intake. how much, I dont know, probably as much as any of the other intakes I would guess.. Along the same lines as the JWT Pop Charger. (similar filter element), but its more the sound that puts this intake aside..
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Old Dec 6, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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Jason- can you post a pic of the scoop and how it mounts?
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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You know the place you put the Tow Hook? There is a bolt that goes in there and the intake scoop is bolted on to that. Then there is a little flap that hangs down from the scoop that is slid into the plastic grille. the metal "snorkle" tube then slides on to the top of the scoop and screws on to the "cold air box"

Here is apicture of the scoop on the grille...

well, you can kind of see it in this pic, but it is to the right of my licence plate and fills up the top 2 slots in the grille.

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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 08:27 AM
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OH JASON!!! Lose the lic plate!!!
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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Jason:

It seems pretty useless to do a dyno once you've done two mods to the car. There will be no way for us to tell what the effect of either of them is.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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I understand the "allure" of a shiney intake pipe, but if performance is waht you're really after rather than underhood "show" a span of plastic pipe between the Air box and MAF would be more effective. Putting a long metal tube just above the exhaust maifold seems , well, doh. The heat conducted into the intake charge is surely measurable in this metal tube arrangement. Plastic (such as heat resistant FRP) provides a far better insulator to conducted heat. Metal is a great conductor of heat. In this case not so good. Even some insualting wrap could help.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by failsafe
Or you can just hook into the OBDII port in your car to monitor intake temps with an application like Pocketlogger, PDA Dyno etc..
Failsafe,

According to my shop manual the inlet air is measured with mass air flow at the MAF sensor. It's external surfaces have always been cooler than the air duct near the throttlebody. I recently insulted the my air duct because I found the external temp on the underside (near the t-body) to be 191F. The picture explains how I found out.


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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Forgot the picture.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by jdove
I understand the "allure" of a shiney intake pipe, but if performance is waht you're really after rather than underhood "show" a span of plastic pipe between the Air box and MAF would be more effective. Putting a long metal tube just above the exhaust maifold seems , well, doh. The heat conducted into the intake charge is surely measurable in this metal tube arrangement. Plastic (such as heat resistant FRP) provides a far better insulator to conducted heat. Metal is a great conductor of heat. In this case not so good. Even some insualting wrap could help.
true,

if you go back to my first review, i talk about how i dont like the fact that every metal part of this intake (the whole thing) gets extreemly hot...
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by DavesZ#3
Jason:

It seems pretty useless to do a dyno once you've done two mods to the car. There will be no way for us to tell what the effect of either of them is.
Yup, I know...

the other mod besides the intake is that 8lb flywheel.

So, what I was thinking of doing was, putting the OEM Intake back on...

Dyno'ing just the flywheel...

then putting the intake back on



Since I found a dyno place rite next to my house!

woo hoo!
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
Yup, I know...

the other mod besides the intake is that 8lb flywheel.

So, what I was thinking of doing was, putting the OEM Intake back on...

Dyno'ing just the flywheel...

then putting the intake back on



Since I found a dyno place rite next to my house!

woo hoo!
Good idea, assuming it's not too much trouble to switch them out.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by DavesZ#3
Good idea, assuming it's not too much trouble to switch them out.
The only part that is a hastle is taking out the intake scoop. I need to go in from the bottom, that is going to stay in there,

everything else is a few screws and clamps...
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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any plans on talking to K&N ans seing if they can make the cold air box out of something more heat resistent????
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by 92hatchattack
any plans on talking to K&N ans seing if they can make the cold air box out of something more heat resistent????
I can try...

It will come down to cost I think... The kit is already a pretty high cost price compaired to other intakes...

Heat wrapping before install would be the bestest way to go i thinks...
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