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Old 03-21-2012, 09:57 AM
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Default Z-Fever Anatomy of a Custom Made VQ35 Intake manifold

I am Doug from Z-Fever. We build custom cars and do a lot of custom fabrication. We are currently building a VQ35DE powered 280ZX (old school but cool). We had to make a custom upper intake manifold to get the OEM hood to fit without hitting the engine. So, I figured I would do a tutorial of what it takes to make a custom intake manifold from start to finish.
I hope you find it interesting and educational.
Enjoy....

We start by scanning the stock gaskets where the lower plenum meets the intake manifold and the throttle body gaskets. Once we do that we digitize them to work with our design software. The images look like this:



Then we create those 2D image into 3D images:



Then from those images we create the program that will tell the machine how to cut the blocks of stainless into these shapes. This program details the speed the machine rotates each bit, what type of bit to use on each cut, in what order to make each cut, and more. The finished products look like this:




From here we create the image of what we expect the finished part will look like. We take the finished 3D images and fuse them together into a complete image. We also rotate and measure as we go making each piece fit so that we can get to the bolts on the intake flange. We map out exactly where each mandrel bent 2" tube has to be welded to the flange so that the clearances are accurate. This is what that looks like:






Then we make the intake plenum side wall where the mandrel bent tubes meet the intake. We make this ONLY after determining where the holes need to go in order to be able to get to the mounting points of the lower flange:


Then we put all the pieces together and cut out the 15"x15" piece of 16 gauge stainless that the intake plenum will be made from, the 4"x7" pieces that the front and back plenum walls will be made from, and we start welding.

Here is a pic of all the pieces before welding:

Here are the (6) - 2" 90 degree mandrels:

Here is the folded 15"x15" stainless section:


We start by welding the mandrels to the intake side wall (you will see that the folded intake section is attatched to this side wall at this point but only to keep the side wall from bending and contorting its shape while being welded on):




Then we weld the mandrels to the lower flange:





Then we cut off the sections of the mandrels that are sticking through the side wall of the plenum:


Then we fit the rounded plenum section to fit the side wall. Making sure that the clearance to the valve cover is accurate and also making sure that we increase velocity of airflow away from the throttle so that the cylinders furthest from the entry point get an equal amount of air as the one's closest to the entry point:




Then we weld the throttle body flange to the 3" stainless mandrel intake pipe:


Then we weld the 3" stainless mandrel pipe onto the intake plenum at the angle we need to make the clearance to the valve cover and the hood.... It looks a little something like this:
(BTW... you may notice the Z-Fever logo plate on the intake tube. We already made the cold air intake pipe with the air flow meter flange we made welded to it rather than using the stock black plastic air flow meter housing, looks a ton better in IMO)






This shot offers you a good look at the inside of the intake after it is all together.


By tomorrow morning (maybe 30 mins after we open) we will have this all closed up and the engine will be running. We will post dyno #'s after we get them to see if we have any actual realized gains.

Here is the finished product, other than the fact that it still needs to be fully polished:




As always, I hope you appreciate our post.
Old 03-21-2012, 10:32 AM
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Impressive. can't wait to see if any gains were made.
Old 03-21-2012, 10:40 AM
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Looks cool. In for the dyno.
Old 03-21-2012, 10:47 AM
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looks good
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Super cool. In for dyno too.
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i hope its better priced than the kinetix. in for dyno
Old 03-21-2012, 11:31 AM
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Why didn't you put velocity stacks at the end of each runner in the plenum? Also why did you choose SS over aluminum?
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Impressive work!
Waiting to see some numbers!
Old 03-22-2012, 05:38 AM
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Looks cool, + on the dyno
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Pre-fab'd velocity stacks/bell horns would have been a nice addition. You could also angle them and do some flow testing to equalize runner airflow.

Great fab work though. Master welder!
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Dyno?
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looks good, but numbers are most important
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Nice fab work!
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Originally Posted by 0jiggy0
Why didn't you put velocity stacks at the end of each runner in the plenum? Also why did you choose SS over aluminum?
This.

SS is more expensive and harder to weld...and V stacks just seem like a given on any custom IM as they have proven gains...The super short intake runner should be good for some HP up top, looks like 1/2 the length of the fwd vq mani runners.

I am in for the dyno.

edit: The last runner looks too close the the back wall of the IM if what I remember from learning about IM design is true. It should have an inch or two of plenum past it to keep the air velocity up. I bet that cylinder runs rich. edit found it(If you believe this is true that is): http://horsepowercalculators.net/int...anifold-design "You never want your plenum to end abruptly at the end of the last runner. Same thing … if there’s a wall right there, air velocity at the wall will be near 0, your runner will not be using it’s whole diameter to suck in air as near the wall there will be almost no air flow… so they usually use a rounded end cap or they space an inch or two off the end of the plenum to move the wall away from the runner."

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And.... the pics have died
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When we do these in the future we will make a few changes, Bell-mouth velocity stacks for sure, will be added.
As for the abrupt end to the IM toward the front of the engine...that could not be helped. The shape of the hood just would not allow any more clearance. The biggest reason for making this particular intake was because the OEM IM would not allow the hood to close..... We figured if we had to make one we would make it look awesome and fit this particular chassis.
I am looking up the dyno-graphs and will add they soon.
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no bueno = bad

lol on that pic, hope you make gains !
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Cool. Looks almost identical to my velocity.
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Originally Posted by Z Fever
When we do these in the future we will make a few changes, Bell-mouth velocity stacks for sure, will be added.
As for the abrupt end to the IM toward the front of the engine...that could not be helped. The shape of the hood just would not allow any more clearance. The biggest reason for making this particular intake was because the OEM IM would not allow the hood to close..... We figured if we had to make one we would make it look awesome and fit this particular chassis.
I am looking up the dyno-graphs and will add they soon.
Assuming the dynos show good gains would you consider building these and if so any idea of a price estimate? If someone could make a decent IM there would be a good number of buyers...assuming it was not price over 1k.
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