SSR Engineering Intake Manifold Complete! *Pics*
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<<That sir, is why I Will never buy a product from Crawford Co. It has nothing to do with Doug, who I am sure is both a knowledgeable person and a good businessman.>>
I also don't want to steal the thunder of this product. It looks interesting and pretty damn cool, especially the side shots. I'm anxious to see the numbers, but am willing to wait. It's a radical design, so that makes the waiting even tougher.
I'd like to comment on the quoted statement. Doug was doing R&D on Z Cars for over 20 years before either Phoenix or even I came along. I was so impressed with his work that I bought a WHOLE CAR from him, not a plenum or cats or headers. I've NEVER been happier with any of the 25+ cars & trucks I have owned since 1979.
Don't punish DOUG for the antics of his new fans, however misguided. Doug is one of the Z Car community's greatest assets - primarily for his knowledge - but also for the way he carries himself in business. If you know of a more honest and sincerely helpful car guy, I'd like to meet him.
And let's can this US vs. THEM mentality. The real THEM is the M3s and others. The real US is the Z Crowd. This seems to be getting fuzzier as more people buy 350s. We're all on the same team.
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I also don't want to steal the thunder of this product. It looks interesting and pretty damn cool, especially the side shots. I'm anxious to see the numbers, but am willing to wait. It's a radical design, so that makes the waiting even tougher.
I'd like to comment on the quoted statement. Doug was doing R&D on Z Cars for over 20 years before either Phoenix or even I came along. I was so impressed with his work that I bought a WHOLE CAR from him, not a plenum or cats or headers. I've NEVER been happier with any of the 25+ cars & trucks I have owned since 1979.
Don't punish DOUG for the antics of his new fans, however misguided. Doug is one of the Z Car community's greatest assets - primarily for his knowledge - but also for the way he carries himself in business. If you know of a more honest and sincerely helpful car guy, I'd like to meet him.
And let's can this US vs. THEM mentality. The real THEM is the M3s and others. The real US is the Z Crowd. This seems to be getting fuzzier as more people buy 350s. We're all on the same team.
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Nice that on this forum you hear about new products in real time and learn about them as they are developed.
Frustrating, but so is life.
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Nice that on this forum you hear about new products in real time and learn about them as they are developed.
Frustrating, but so is life.
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jcr847, it's obvious you're clueless about intake design... more so your OWN car.
What knowledge I knew has been expanded even further under the watchful eye of Doug.
One thing is for sure... who gives a shat what you would buy. You should be lucky there are people on this board who KNOWS what they are doing and not shoving CRAP to you.
Here's your clue...
LONG RUNNERS = TORQUE
SHORT RUNNERS = HIGH END HP
Look at our stock setup... then look at that.
Now since you have been EDUCATED, you should be able to draw the conclusion...
BYE BYE TORQUE.
Want to keep this up, PM me... otherwise next post I'll embarass you.
What knowledge I knew has been expanded even further under the watchful eye of Doug.
One thing is for sure... who gives a shat what you would buy. You should be lucky there are people on this board who KNOWS what they are doing and not shoving CRAP to you.
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Here's your clue...
LONG RUNNERS = TORQUE
SHORT RUNNERS = HIGH END HP
Look at our stock setup... then look at that.
Now since you have been EDUCATED, you should be able to draw the conclusion...
BYE BYE TORQUE.
Want to keep this up, PM me... otherwise next post I'll embarass you.
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Originally posted by ether
lets try to stay on topic...
seems that this would also need the coolant passthrough.. will just have to wait until its released to see how it shapes up, not before...
lets try to stay on topic...
seems that this would also need the coolant passthrough.. will just have to wait until its released to see how it shapes up, not before...
This design could EASILY replicate something similar to the Kinetix plenum and use an external setup for the pass through.
Nothing big to overcome there. I'm more curious of the interior.
SSR Engineering - you sharing interior photos for opinions?
Or is it... top secret?
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Originally posted by PhoenixINX
jcr847, it's obvious you're clueless about intake design... more so your OWN car.
What knowledge I knew has been expanded even further under the watchful eye of Doug.
One thing is for sure... who gives a shat what you would buy. You should be lucky there are people on this board who KNOWS what they are doing and not shoving CRAP to you.
BYE BYE TORQUE.
jcr847, it's obvious you're clueless about intake design... more so your OWN car.
What knowledge I knew has been expanded even further under the watchful eye of Doug.
One thing is for sure... who gives a shat what you would buy. You should be lucky there are people on this board who KNOWS what they are doing and not shoving CRAP to you.
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
BYE BYE TORQUE.
I'm not to sure if the Shoving CRAP to you statement was geared towards us, so I'll let that one pass. But our intake manifold is welded inside and out for ultimate flow, and carries a life-time manufacturers warranty.
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Originally posted by PhoenixINX
jcr847, it's obvious you're clueless about intake design... more so your OWN car.
What knowledge I knew has been expanded even further under the watchful eye of Doug.
One thing is for sure... who gives a shat what you would buy. You should be lucky there are people on this board who KNOWS what they are doing and not shoving CRAP to you.
...
Want to keep this up, PM me... otherwise next post I'll embarass you.
jcr847, it's obvious you're clueless about intake design... more so your OWN car.
What knowledge I knew has been expanded even further under the watchful eye of Doug.
One thing is for sure... who gives a shat what you would buy. You should be lucky there are people on this board who KNOWS what they are doing and not shoving CRAP to you.
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Want to keep this up, PM me... otherwise next post I'll embarass you.
Overall I just think that you need to consider how you represent Doug, who I have nothing against. You are such a tool on these forums that, regardless of whatever "knowledge" you may have, you will never be anyone who even resembles a respectable human being.
Peace
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Originally posted by jcr847
I don't feel that you deserve any more of my attention so I for one plan focus back on the point of this thread,
I don't feel that you deserve any more of my attention so I for one plan focus back on the point of this thread,
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All you guys, including PhoenixINX, we all have our own opinions, and we all are curious to know what this will do, but we need to learn to be respectful when expressing our opinions.
PhoenixINX, even if you are right, you should try to be a little more respectful and say the exact same thing, but in "nicer" words just so they don't offend anyone..
PhoenixINX, even if you are right, you should try to be a little more respectful and say the exact same thing, but in "nicer" words just so they don't offend anyone..
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Originally posted by jcr847
Jesus some people on this board have the Crawford bug bad...
People fail to realize that marketing is just that, marketing. Obviously anyone is going to generate reasons to explain why their design is superior. Is the crawford crew the end all zen master of the VQ35, hell no!! Is it possible someone could improve upon their design, hell the 1st person to the table after them did.
I'm not saying that this is necessarily better but I can think of no definitive reason why it couldn't be given the limited amount of information we have at this point.
How about, just once, we wait for more info before reverting to the half assed "I am a crawford lemming and they rule" ********.
Jesus some people on this board have the Crawford bug bad...
People fail to realize that marketing is just that, marketing. Obviously anyone is going to generate reasons to explain why their design is superior. Is the crawford crew the end all zen master of the VQ35, hell no!! Is it possible someone could improve upon their design, hell the 1st person to the table after them did.
I'm not saying that this is necessarily better but I can think of no definitive reason why it couldn't be given the limited amount of information we have at this point.
How about, just once, we wait for more info before reverting to the half assed "I am a crawford lemming and they rule" ********.
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Originally posted by ZU L8R
Will the strut tower bar fit?
Will the strut tower bar fit?
we dont have a bar.
might have to do somthing like the crawford bar.
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Originally posted by g356gear
The internal metal plate and gasket are there for a reason...to aid in brake boost function.
The internal metal plate and gasket are there for a reason...to aid in brake boost function.
I'm attaching the TS version they use on their 700ps car. I looks to me that its that same basic overall design. i.e. it appears to me to also replace the bottom of the plenum. Talked to an owner of TS setup and this never came up.
thanks
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Originally posted by SSR Engineering
I'm not to sure if the Shoving CRAP to you statement was geared towards us, so I'll let that one pass. But our intake manifold is welded inside and out for ultimate flow, and carries a life-time manufacturers warranty.
I'm not to sure if the Shoving CRAP to you statement was geared towards us, so I'll let that one pass. But our intake manifold is welded inside and out for ultimate flow, and carries a life-time manufacturers warranty.
I've heard of SSR engineering, and they have in fact brought some fair products to the market.
My concern is that runner length... I'm all game for top end power, but the torque of the VQ is very sweet. Shortening the runners as you know WILL impede that.
Bottomline for FI this does look to be a sweet piece... regrettably maybe 1% of this board will be FI.
Again, are you will to show us what you've done on the interior?