Hi,

Can I dispute this please?

Doug's personal car was totalled yet the engine bay survived intact. (I think they called the car "Baby" it was blue RIP.

Richard's Z has been hit 3 times with major front end damage leaving it undrivable, the engine bay and STB were untouched on all 3 hits, his car is out again and he is running it hard at Streets of Willows.

The Crawford STB does it's job!!! It's not a "gimmic."

Anyways,

I have to hand it to SSR for their great attitude through all of this. 7 thousands members on this board we have room for 3 plenums, although I am definately in the FI field.

As for people continually asking if the stock STB will fit, I have looked at all the pics and don't see how it possible could. If I am wrong correct me it just seems too tall for the STB. It has to be though.

All 3 plenums have their own strong points, it can only benefit the community to have more options.

I am still loving my Crawford, it's holding down my 9 PSI like a champ. Keep up the good work all of you manafacturers you have my support!

 

I agree with 12SecZ.

plenty of room for plenum developers here!

also - the Crawford strut is NOT a gimmick. I would even bet it is BETTER than the factory strut but it also means MORE $$$$ out the door and I have already spent WAY TOO MUCH!

I also like the way the factory strut looks OVER the crawford.

 

ssr:

great job please keep us posted. Would go very well with my greddy turbo kit.

 

That was my point, both companies have their products out there with dyno's to prove it make power

 

retail on the SSR intake manifold is $1200.

 

nuttyprof, did you get any info on the HP gains under FI applications

 

That makes the decesion on whether I sholud wait or go with the Kinetix a little easier.

 

What do I get for $1200? (Voice of PVT Joker)

Flow bench results, dynos, etc??

 

Where did you hear that?

 

that is from one of the guys at SSR. FI dyno isnt out yet. i might be doing a NA dyno in a few weeks. i will get more info soon i hope, will post when i get it.

 

The only way I would pay $1200 is IF it replaced the upper and lower collectors along with the lower intake manifold. That and it would have to add a significant amount of power in a FI application.

 

ok, for 1195 it comes with: new runners, new plenum, new flanges etc.

 

ok, just got the latest news. wonderful wonderful news. if there are 10 + people interested, they will make it cast aluminum, which will cost only 6-7 bills a piece, which is damn close to crawford prices. but no plenum core exchange. no dynos or flow bench yet though.

 

more interested in FI gains rather than a cast version. waiting for the dynos

 

It's hard to improve on perfection isn't it?

My plenum is perfect for FI.

 

12secZ did you ever do just a stock vs crawford FI comparison? i actually like the looks of the crawford, pure business

 

Very well said.

 

i am still waiting for a pic of the inside.......

 

I ran it both ways but unfortuntely I don't have numbers.

I broke it in with the stock plenum for 1200 miles (new engine) then switched to the Crawford for 600 miles then drove to LA to get flashed for another 400 miles.

I felt a difference and I'm sure it gives me a buffer as far as tuning and air flow but no numbers sorry.

I also know "it flet faster or better" doesn't hold much weight around here but I am veru in tune with my car and yes it made a difference.

That's my story and I am sticking to it. It just makes mechanical sense when you think about it.

For prove here is a pic of it stock though. Seldom seen

 

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