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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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Hey guys, I'm looking into my choices for headers right and I'm wanting to get some opinions on the following - how would you rank each of these headers in hp/tq gains, sound, and fit/finish:

Nismo R-tune

DC Sports

Crawford

Pro-1 (any info out there yet?)


I've ran into a pretty good deal on some Nismo's (for about the price of a new set of SS DC's) - would you chose those over the DC's and the Pro-1's (price not a factor)... I know the crawford's are the best, hands-down but I don't know if I want to fork over that much since the install isn't going to be cheap...

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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I have read a lot of posts about Crawford headers being the best on the market, but I dont have anything to back that up with. I think they are the best looking headers. Have you considered the Xerd long tube headers? I think you can get them for around $750 or so. I think when I get headers, I will go with the Xerds and sell my test pipes.

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Don't forget the 350EVO Headers. Not too much info on them yet but, they look promising.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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I know that the Stillen headers put down 11HP and 18 lb/ft Torque to the wheels. Pretty good gain to me.
As for sound, I think they will all sound the same.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Those gains for stillen were with test pipes
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Any same length header is good ,Crawford , I think, are the longest short header . If you dont mind the noise , the long tube headers will work good also,
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Any same length header is good ,Crawford , I think, are the longest short header . If you dont mind the noise , the long tube headers will work good also,
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by kopo
Those gains for stillen were with test pipes
Correction
The gains from Stillen headers AND test pipes is 16HP and 20lb/ft torque at the wheels.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by GPorsch
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The gains from Stillen headers AND test pipes is 16HP and 20lb/ft torque at the wheels.
Geeez... seriously?

The Crawford's did more than that with their high-flow cats bolted onto the headers.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Where are u getting these #s, I remember alex from stillen saying the above gains were from the headers and test pipes, not the ones you are saying. I might be wrong. Any dynos?
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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These are their latest dyno numbers they have posted.
Even if the crawfords make a little more power look at the price difference. How much more do the crwfords make? I know that there are a few out there that make slightly more HP at the sacrifice of having less torque.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by GPorsch
These are their latest dyno numbers they have posted.
Even if the crawfords make a little more power look at the price difference. How much more do the crwfords make? I know that there are a few out there that make slightly more HP at the sacrifice of having less torque.
Tons more, as those numbers Stillen display are not across the board.

The torque gains of the Crawford's are AMAZINGLY superior.

It's okay... if you're into saving cash.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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If what ure saying is correct the stillens are not that's bad of a buy
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Not saying that at all.

In this car... I would have the Crawford's or no mods.

I drove a car with NISMO headers, which are flowing FAR better than the Stillens... I couldn't feel a thing.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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i believe dc headers are the best bang for the buck.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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I dont belive stillens are that great.

Thanks Glen

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zmego1985
[B]Lol Stillen can claim what they want the funny part is they never have dynos to prove their statements. I know this for a fact, because they scr#wed me over and maxima headers when i had that car. Along with twenty something other on maxima.org. So i dont belive their gains they claim. Sure their must be some gains but, come on they look just like borlas and how good did those do. Just my opinion i may be right i may be wrong, but i would dyno before i state the gains they claim. I made the smart choice and payed a little more for the best headers out crawfords. I didnt make a mistake again thats why i chose them.

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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i personally would wait until the topspeed pro1 headers are out....i heard they are gonna be a copy of the fujitsubo headers but in all stainless steal...and they will be a good price...all the topspeed stuff i have seen has been excellent quality
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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going off your list i would say crawfords if money is not a factor
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Money is definitely a factor (one of the biggest ones) - I might just be waiting on the Pro-1's to come out...
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