If you guys could find time between your bickering, would you please add my NNA case number to my info;

4084663

I know we are all frustrated but let's use our energies on the problem at hand.

 

I'll add my info here. I'm starting to see the problem at 1900 miles. The VIN is #015615, build date 02/02. I'm taking it in tomorrow for a first look by the dealer.

-- Mark

 

VIN#000165
12,400miles
9/1/2002 purchased

Dealer replaced front tires on 4/18/2003 under warranty(TSB)
Also did an alignment. Total cost to Nissan was around $580~

I agree that Nissan will probably work on a solution to this problem since the cost of warranty will be enormous if they keep replacing the front tires...until the warranty runs out..

Hopefully we'll hear something soon.

 

VIN # 100850
Built 07/02
Miles 5200
Case # 4105817

Alignment completed 04/07. Feathering both front and rear. Requested 4 new tires. Waiting to hear back.

 

VIN 002533
Build Date 08-10-2002
Miles 11,800


At ~7000 miles the front tires were replaced, alignment done to full toe out as defined by original Nissan spec.

At ~10,000 miles the feathering had returned, Nissan Tech instructed dealership to swap tires per the TSB and then do a new alignment. This time to Nissan Tech instructed the dealer to set the toe-out beyond the original spec.

At 11,800 feathering is already noticable to the touch.

JD

 

VIN #000368
Case Complaint #4069344 (2nd)
Purchased Sep 02

TSB applied at 6000 miles in Feb 03 due to heel-toe feathering circumferentially around tire on inside tread blocks. TSB required swapping front tires putting the "feathered" tread blocks on the outside. TSB also required alignment. Dealer performed front tire swap and performed a 4-wheel alignment to put it into the center of the specs.

By 8000 miles in Mar 03 the inside tread blocks once again had heel-toe feathering circumferentially around tire. Outsides were still feathered, possibly even worse. Dealer checked alignment, alignment was within specs. Dealer performed 4-wheel alignment anyways to put alignment more in the center of the specs.


Enforcer

P.S. Sorry for the late post.

 

VIN: JNAZ34E73T007549
NNA Case#: 4097306
Reported: 11-Apr-2003

Front tires were cross rotated recently, but tire noise is still 4x4 like.

 

VIN #JN1AZ34E93T009674
Reported: 08/14/2003
Dealer: Weston Nissan, FL
Mileage: 6250
Purchased: 12/30/2002



Dennis,

 

vin#04957
reported 4 times
replaced tires once
dealer maroone nissan of miami
miles at start of problem 6000 & 12000
purchased 9-2-02

 

I've had all tires replaced at 14k and at 18k right now. I have not noticed any "cupping" yet. I do feel constant vibration in the steering wheel tho. Please let me know if that is normal. I can try to find the alignment info if you'd like.

Black Track

 

You should not have a constant vibration in your steering wheel. Did it vibrate from when you put on new tires? If it did, your balance job was not correct. If your installer can't get it done right, take it to a shop that uses Hunter balancing, its the best I've found.

Misalignment is not the cause of wheel vibration, poor balancing does it. It could be on just one wheel. I ran over a curb recently and got a steering wheel vibration. My installer added 1/4 oz. to the wheel and the vibration was gone.

 

VIN# JN1AZ34E43T008576
Gave me new tires at 8,750 miles have to see when it starts coming back.

 

Is there a lemon law section in this forum? If not maybe it would be a great idea to begin one so that we can learn from our individual experiences with regards to the lemon law. It is obvious that nissan does not have a fix, becasue they have admitted it to me several times. They suggest that I hang in there and wait for a fix, trust them they said. Well I am not going to continue driving a noisy unsafe vehicle with worn tires and pulling to the right on the highways. I am also not going to park my car at home and continue paying for it. If you have not gotten this far with your nissan troubles you will. Once again I suggest a lemon law section in this forum, because if you are assuming that nissan really cares you are wrong. TRUST ME !!!!

 

Vin # 100627

Purchased: September 02, 2002

Dealer: Maroone Nissan of Miami

Experienced tire feathering at about 3k to 4k miles.

Replaced tires at 6k miles

Aligned car a total of 3 times!

Replaced transmission at about 7k miles.

I now have 16K miles and tires are completely feathered!

 

http://www.discounttire.com/dtc/broc...kAlignment.jsp


I just wanted to give this link out that I received from Enforcer who explained to me what might be the cause of our tires cupping.

It may be caused by "Incorrect Caster Setting" = Excessive shoulder wear; tread blocks show "heel-toe" wear pattern. (Caster is important to steering feel and high-speed stability.)

This would also make sense in why Nissan has been SLOW in giving us a fix!
It would be a "design flaw" (since are cars have NO caster adjustment) and not an "equipment problem." (ie. springs, tires, struts, control arms, etc...)

If it were an equipment problem I am sure it would be cheaper for Nissan to just give us new (springs, struts, control arms, etc...) then giving us new tires every 5000 - 6000 miles.

 

Count me in too... I just completed my 3rd oil change (7800 miles), and I have noticeable feathering on both front tires...I haven't looked closely at the rears, but there's obvious problems in the front. My ride has gotten alot worse in the past couple months too, and I was hoping it wasn't serious, but apparently I was wrong...I have the load "roar" when my I am slowing down and with speeds under 30 mph. I am going to see the dealer later thsi week, and he wants to see my feathered tires.

THIS SUXX!

Build Date: 9/02
VIN#: 5309
NNA Case #:4248428

 

Vin: #9176
Manufacture Date: 11/02
Reliable Nissan
Albuquerque, NM

 

Build Date: 12/02
#: 9959
NNA Case #:4230229


I've had 2 alignments, the right control arm replaced and the tires swaped - The Z no longer drifts to the right (thank god) however, I still have some wheel hop and road noise at low speeds. NNA left me a message this morning to follow up on my repairs. I'm going to report the positive and negative. I'm also going to request new tires when I call them back tomorrow....


Stay Tuned!!!!

 

I just got a call from Nissan yesterday. They are finally going forward with the test of putting Michilen Pilots on my Z.

I know! I have heard from some of you that have gone through this and "new tires does not solve the feathering/cupping issue". But I have also read by two different people that it did work. So, I am going to hope for the best and at the very least it will be one more data point in which to study the dynamic between tires vs. struts vs. castor vs. springs etc...

Below is the growing list of fellow 350Z owners who I am in touch with who ALL have the feathering/cupping issue. I thought it may be good to update those that are new to this string. There are power in NUMBERS!

Ian - VIN #100157, Case Complaint #4082264
David - VIN #100594
Scott - VIN#100903 Case Complaint #4059755
Robert - VIN#1766
Jason - VIN#100725 Case Complaint #4049797
Vince - VIN#000877 Case Complaint #4075864
Cobey - VIN#101116
Rod - VIN#110836 Case Complaint #4084933
James - VIN#1324 Case Complaint #4079129
Chris - VIN #103197 Case Complaint #4063661
Jim - VIN#003283
Steve - VIN#004278
Cam - VIN#103689 Case Complaint #4006573
Steve S. - VIN#006118 Case Complaint #4083945
Tim - VIN#103395
James W. - VIN#101018 Case Complaint #4081081
Brad - VIN#000368 Case Complaint #4069344 (2nd)
Conal - VIN#000786 Case Complaint #4089440
Michael - VIN#010832 Case Complaint #4084381
Matt - VIN#002594 Case Complaint #4089713
Keith G. - VIN#000680 Case Complaint #4088854
Lee - VIN#100674 Case Complaint #4087221
Glen - VIN#013166
Rick - VIN# 002043
Jerry - VIN#006027
Mark - VIN#015615
JD - VIN#002533
Joy - VIN#100850
Ricky - VIN#00172
Steve Seidl - VIN#005449 Case Complaint #4126032
Jim T. - VIN#007045 Case Complaint#4203517
Vic - VIN#007468

 

Please add me to this list, I cna give you pertinent email address, contact numbers, etc, if needed.

VIN#: 5309 NNA Case #:4248428

I am going to the dealership tomorrow so they can look at my tires. I am going to demand new rubber, but I really want to know that the feathering issue is fixed first...I will be following up with my NNA rep tomorrow afternoon, after my visit to the dealership.

Please let us know how the Michelin Pilots work out long term, 4k+ miles...