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Old 12-03-2003, 06:58 AM
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Default ANYONE HAVE COPY OF NEW TSB NTB03-006A(Tire feathering)--just came out!

Thank you!...It has new vin range dates and specific new alighnment Specs!..if anyone has it please e-mail it to me at HRVATZADAR@aOL.COM

Thank again!!!
Old 12-03-2003, 07:35 AM
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Just post it.
Old 12-03-2003, 07:39 AM
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I don't have it to post it, That's why I"m trying to find a copy of it
Old 12-31-2003, 10:41 AM
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Old 12-31-2003, 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by misel00
I don't have it to post it, That's why I"m trying to find a copy of it
http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/nissa...5.asp?mscssid=
Old 01-07-2004, 06:30 AM
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umm that tsb is like 10 years old. this is not new. they just rotate.
Old 01-12-2004, 01:04 PM
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Default New Revision

NTB03-006A is not the latest revision. There is now a NTB03-006B that was published around Dec 19, 2003. I don't have a copy but saw it on a service reps desk.

I do not have a copy. Sorry.
Old 01-13-2004, 12:59 PM
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here it is

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Old 01-13-2004, 01:03 PM
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Page 2 all the rest of the information is about side to side rotation by the dismount method.
If any one wants to host all five pages I e-mail them to them. (Vic)?
Old 01-13-2004, 01:25 PM
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This TSB hints that improper alignment is the issue and specifies exactly what is causing the improper settings. I hope this is all it is.
Old 01-13-2004, 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by johnlotusboy
Page 2 all the rest of the information is about side to side rotation by the dismount method.
If any one wants to host all five pages I e-mail them to them. (Vic)?
I'll host them send them to 350z@markcoleman.us

I'll post the link once I have them up.
Old 01-14-2004, 06:12 AM
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Default New alignment settings for toe

This is very interesting. According to the TSB posted above the total toe in settings have been changed !

The toe in settings used to be 0.04in max. Now it is 0.08in max with that being the recommended setting from Nissan.


Hmmmm -- changing alignment settings and not telling anyone. Sounds like Nissan owes me a third set of tires....
Old 01-14-2004, 07:17 AM
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Default Re: New alignment settings for toe

Originally posted by jelledge
This is very interesting. According to the TSB posted above the total toe in settings have been changed !

The toe in settings used to be 0.04in max. Now it is 0.08in max with that being the recommended setting from Nissan.


Hmmmm -- changing alignment settings and not telling anyone. Sounds like Nissan owes me a third set of tires....
This appears to be a result of the Japanese engineers that came over November and told the people whose cars they inspected to change the settings to 0.08 or 2 degrees. Several of us contacted NNA and we didn't get any feedback about the new settings other than what we read from owners whose cars were changed. No official word from NNA, why aren't we informed?

Do they want negative publicity? How does an owner find out about an official alignment change and not have to read it at this site?

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Old 01-14-2004, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: Re: New alignment settings for toe

Originally posted by Boomer
This appears to be a result of the Japanese engineers that came over November and told the people whose cars they inspected to change the settings to 0.08 or 2 degrees. Several of us contacted NNA and we didn't get any feedback about the new settings other than what we read from owners whose cars were changed. No official word from NNA, why aren't we informed?

Do they want negative publicity? How does an owner find out about an official alignment change and not have to read it at this site?
The only thing new here is the formal declaration from Nissan that their Dealers need help operating their alignment equippment. The 2mm toe guidance has been available to Dealers for at least 4 months. Interestingly, Nissan has not actually changed the alignment specs. Only suggested that the specified tolerances are unaceptable and the toe be set at the ouiter limit. Why don't they change the tolerances then? No front end can hold the tolerances that they are suggesting in all conditions. They are talking about a couple hundreths of an inch one way or another. If the car is this sensative to a toe setting then it obviously has other issues. This is, of course, the case as tires have continued to feather after the 2mm guidance has been applied. At least they did on mine. The sad part is that these guys (Nissan) most likely actually believe the **** that they are shoveling. My vehicle is in the shop as we speak and I can imagine the phone call to Nissan that will take place.

Dealer: "We set the toe at 2mm like you said and it ate another set of tires."
Nissan: "Then you didn't do it right."
Dealer: "Ok we'll do it again but what do we do about the tires?"
Nissan: "Swap them left to right."
Dealer: "But they are cupped on both sides."
Nissan: "Take them over to the body shop and have them level the ridges out with a high speed grinder."
Dealer: "What have you guys been smoking over there and can I have some?"
Nissan: "Ok, tell him your ordering new tires but their is a backorder and it will take, (background) how long before his lemon law rights period expires...6 months, Tell him it will take six months.
Dealer: "Wow, you guys should be in the car sales business. You have all the right skills. Hey, you are in the car sales business."

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Old 01-14-2004, 08:24 AM
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This is turning into what many of us feared would happen: Nissan would dismiss the issue as silly Americans who can't align the car properly.
Old 01-14-2004, 08:57 AM
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PLEASE SEND ME A PRINTABLE COPY OF THE FULL TSB

i need it badly i am fighting the dealer over this right now.

my email is z33injax@aol.com
Old 01-14-2004, 09:02 AM
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could someone host it?? if not, i can host it too! i need htis info BADLY too!!!! need it before tomorrow!
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NTB03-006b


No assurances are made regarding the accuracy or completeness of the above document.


Sorry. Had to remove the link.
MWeber 1/16/04

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Old 01-15-2004, 08:17 AM
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This is the exact same one that I received from my dealer tech.
Old 01-15-2004, 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by overZealous
NTB03-006b


No assurances are made regarding the accuracy or completeness of the above document.
Why not? Has anyone contacted NNA about this document? I would do it, but would probably alienate them forever since I am so angry. Can someone on this thread do it?

P.S. I just called my dealer who said they couldn't find it on the Nissan Assist website where they get their Recall and TSB information. So, it is not readily available to all dealers at this time. I told my service writer I would apprciate his call if/when this document shows up. He agreed to do so. I will sit tight on any changes until this TSB is termed "official".

Also, the numbers of the TSB are NTB03-006A AND NTB03-006B, which one, if either, are correct?

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