StopTech BBK..! - Pic's Part 2
@Allen: you sir have not clue about brakes 
...i have the same and there is a biiiiiig differnce between the "normal" brakes and a bbk other than "..aid in heat dissapation..".
on a bbk with 6 pistons in front you have a much bigger surface/pads than stock so for that the braking force is also "bigger"....of course they don´t overheat as fast as stock brakes!
...i have the same and there is a biiiiiig differnce between the "normal" brakes and a bbk other than "..aid in heat dissapation..".on a bbk with 6 pistons in front you have a much bigger surface/pads than stock so for that the braking force is also "bigger"....of course they don´t overheat as fast as stock brakes!
a bbk is good for when you do 20th lap at the end of the straight trying to slow down for that corner. stock brakes would more likely then not be to hot and fade, increasing your stopping distance significantly (ask me how i know), where as a bbk would be able to cope with the extra heat and still slow you down in the same distance. on any newish car, a bbk is overkill for street driving... the only benefit it gives you is it looks pretty...
Originally Posted by VashZ350
well, to be honest I've never been to the nürburgring, but its about time
@Allen: you sir have not clue about brakes ...i have the same and there is a biiiiiig differnce between the "normal" brakes and a bbk other than "..aid in heat dissapation..".
on a bbk with 6 pistons in front you have a much bigger surface/pads than stock so for that the braking force is also "bigger"....of course they don´t overheat as fast as stock brakes!
...i have the same and there is a biiiiiig differnce between the "normal" brakes and a bbk other than "..aid in heat dissapation..".on a bbk with 6 pistons in front you have a much bigger surface/pads than stock so for that the braking force is also "bigger"....of course they don´t overheat as fast as stock brakes!
Thanks for that quick reply and explanation ..
^he's wrong, read my post. if you don't believe me, post this question in the brakes and suspension forum, i'll even give you a link
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension-399/
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension-399/
no, Allen is right. you have no clue about brakes. it sticky tires that help you slow down faster. the stock brakes are more than capable of engaging abs (or locking the tires, but our cars have abs, so imma use that example), after abs is engaged, its a function of the friction between the tire and the surface. the stickier the tire, the shorter your stop. just cause you have more braking force on the rotor doesn't mean that it will help you stop shorter. if stock brakes weren't good enough to engage abs, then better brakes would decrease stopping distance.
a bbk is good for when you do 20th lap at the end of the straight trying to slow down for that corner. stock brakes would more likely then not be to hot and fade, increasing your stopping distance significantly (ask me how i know), where as a bbk would be able to cope with the extra heat and still slow you down in the same distance. on any newish car, a bbk is overkill for street driving... the only benefit it gives you is it looks pretty...
you really owe it to yourself to go. since you never been there before, i'd suggest renting a car to learn the track on for the first few laps. at least thats what i would do. i rented one from rsrnurburg.com when i was there a little while back. it could be a bit pricey to rent a car though, you can see the prices on the website. but its cheap (imo) to go on your own car, only 22 euro's a lap, or a bit less if you buy a bundle
a bbk is good for when you do 20th lap at the end of the straight trying to slow down for that corner. stock brakes would more likely then not be to hot and fade, increasing your stopping distance significantly (ask me how i know), where as a bbk would be able to cope with the extra heat and still slow you down in the same distance. on any newish car, a bbk is overkill for street driving... the only benefit it gives you is it looks pretty...
you really owe it to yourself to go. since you never been there before, i'd suggest renting a car to learn the track on for the first few laps. at least thats what i would do. i rented one from rsrnurburg.com when i was there a little while back. it could be a bit pricey to rent a car though, you can see the prices on the website. but its cheap (imo) to go on your own car, only 22 euro's a lap, or a bit less if you buy a bundle
.. Is it really worth the money though?.. I'll never be on the track but im very hard on the brakes .. Front OEM brakes and rotors worn out at 10k miles.. I was thnking a BBK would help in my situation,maybe not ?.. I dont want to be changing rotors and pads every 10k miles 
Last edited by kham25; May 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM.
do you have oem pads? 10k is a really short time for your pads to wear out if you don't go to the track. if you'll never go to the track, the a bbk is a waste of money imo performance wise. you can just get better pads to last you longer and that are friendlier on rotors. a bbk will help your rotors last and pads last longer, but to a small degree, its more of a pad function. unless you drive really really really really hard on the street... then a bbk would prolly be beneficial, but upgrading to the stock brembo's would most likely be enough.
there also may be something wrong with your car if the pads are done at 10k, they should really last longer than that
there also may be something wrong with your car if the pads are done at 10k, they should really last longer than that
do you have oem pads? 10k is a really short time for your pads to wear out if you don't go to the track. if you'll never go to the track, the a bbk is a waste of money imo performance wise. you can just get better pads to last you longer and that are friendlier on rotors. a bbk will help your rotors last and pads last longer, but to a small degree, its more of a pad function. unless you drive really really really really hard on the street... then a bbk would prolly be beneficial, but upgrading to the stock brembo's would most likely be enough.
there also may be something wrong with your car if the pads are done at 10k, they should really last longer than that
there also may be something wrong with your car if the pads are done at 10k, they should really last longer than that
2 weeks ago bought New OEM rotors and pads and installed every thing.. Car drives perfect again..
Im wondering if the wider tires puts that much more stress on the stock brakes F255 /285R ? Im running the Stock Nismo wheels.. I do drive hard seldom at times but this is definatly ridiculous for 10k
Last edited by kham25; May 14, 2009 at 12:52 PM.
no, Allen is right. you (XM 1)have no clue about brakes. it sticky tires that help you slow down faster. the stock brakes are more than capable of engaging abs (or locking the tires, but our cars have abs, so imma use that example), after abs is engaged, its a function of the friction between the tire and the surface. the stickier the tire, the shorter your stop. just cause you have more braking force on the rotor doesn't mean that it will help you stop shorter. if stock brakes weren't good enough to engage abs, then better brakes would decrease stopping distance.
a bbk is good for when you do 20th lap at the end of the straight trying to slow down for that corner. stock brakes would more likely then not be to hot and fade, increasing your stopping distance significantly (ask me how i know), where as a bbk would be able to cope with the extra heat and still slow you down in the same distance. on any newish car, a bbk is overkill for street driving... the only benefit it gives you is it looks pretty...
a bbk is good for when you do 20th lap at the end of the straight trying to slow down for that corner. stock brakes would more likely then not be to hot and fade, increasing your stopping distance significantly (ask me how i know), where as a bbk would be able to cope with the extra heat and still slow you down in the same distance. on any newish car, a bbk is overkill for street driving... the only benefit it gives you is it looks pretty...
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no, Allen is right. you have no clue about brakes. it sticky tires that help you slow down faster. the stock brakes are more than capable of engaging abs (or locking the tires, but our cars have abs, so imma use that example), after abs is engaged, its a function of the friction between the tire and the surface. the stickier the tire, the shorter your stop. just cause you have more braking force on the rotor doesn't mean that it will help you stop shorter. if stock brakes weren't good enough to engage abs, then better brakes would decrease stopping distance.
a bbk is good for when you do 20th lap at the end of the straight trying to slow down for that corner. stock brakes would more likely then not be to hot and fade, increasing your stopping distance significantly (ask me how i know), where as a bbk would be able to cope with the extra heat and still slow you down in the same distance. on any newish car, a bbk is overkill for street driving... the only benefit it gives you is it looks pretty...
you really owe it to yourself to go. since you never been there before, i'd suggest renting a car to learn the track on for the first few laps. at least thats what i would do. i rented one from rsrnurburg.com when i was there a little while back. it could be a bit pricey to rent a car though, you can see the prices on the website. but its cheap (imo) to go on your own car, only 22 euro's a lap, or a bit less if you buy a bundle
a bbk is good for when you do 20th lap at the end of the straight trying to slow down for that corner. stock brakes would more likely then not be to hot and fade, increasing your stopping distance significantly (ask me how i know), where as a bbk would be able to cope with the extra heat and still slow you down in the same distance. on any newish car, a bbk is overkill for street driving... the only benefit it gives you is it looks pretty...
you really owe it to yourself to go. since you never been there before, i'd suggest renting a car to learn the track on for the first few laps. at least thats what i would do. i rented one from rsrnurburg.com when i was there a little while back. it could be a bit pricey to rent a car though, you can see the prices on the website. but its cheap (imo) to go on your own car, only 22 euro's a lap, or a bit less if you buy a bundle
...jsut for looks
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the only benefit it gives you is it looks pretty...
nice.....the brake disc's look so big, i like alot. Axis shines are really good at showing off the brakes TOO, ALOT of space in between the spokes.
If you can lock up / engage abs in stock brakes what makes you think you will brake faster with a BBK? They aid in heat dissipation; for prolonged use which is why AMG (performance oriented) uses them on their performance oriented cars that might experience brake fade... no one wants an AMG car that has massive brake fade..
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