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Old 08-09-2010, 11:18 AM
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Default CDC Autocross Saturday August 21st

I just thought I would see if any of you ricers would be interested in running an autox with the Capital Driving Club in Winchester, VA on the 21ist. This is a large lot with no, I repeat no, light poles within the lot. Generally this is a 45-55 second course on this lot. Last weekend (the 7th) it was a very high speed course.....I pegged the limiter (7100rpm) in second for bit on one stretch. This is fairly atypical for this club, but expect a max speed around 50-55mph in our cars.

Turnout on this lot tends to be a bit less than some of the other lots used. It would be a good opportunity to get a few extra runs (normal is 6). The people are very friendly and are almost always willing to give ride-a-longs. There are also several instructors that will ride with you if it is your first time, etc. It's a good mix of people who have raced at the national level to first timers. There is also free water/soda and $1 hot dogs.

To register as a guest click "sign up now" and register as a "guest of member." Use 0 as the member number. You will receive an email with your reservation and car number.
http://www.capitaldrivingclub.com/rsvp/autox_events.php

You do not need to tape numbers and such on your car. They use a simple bar code system and there is instructions in the FAQ section on their home page here:
http://www.capitaldrivingclub.com/faq.html
Information about the bar codes here:
http://www.capitaldrivingclub.com/fo...php?f=11&t=746

If you wish you can also ride along with me in the morning. I prefer to run solo in the afternoon, but if there are extra runs I am willing to use the first and/or second for ride alongs.

Last weekend there were about 60 cars. There was everything from 500whp 2250lb cobra replica that runs in XP (pretty much the highest class outside of open wheel cars) to a stock 2010 sentra. In total there was 8 replica cobras, 4 lotus elises, and mix mash of sti's, M3's,etc.

Here is a vid of Wade Chamberlain who runs the above mentioned cobra in XP at a national level.......the rev limiter you hear him hitting in second is about 72-73mph. Him and Fred Kelley (another FFR cobra) always have a hell of a battle for FTD. There is usually a considerable (2-3 second gap) back to the rest of the pack after them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCiLgFq71gs

Cost for guests is $35. It would be best to arrive a bit early (before 8am). If you plan to attend be sure to take out ANY loose objects....this includes floor mats, anything not bolted in, and everything out of the trunk (spare, etc). Also make sure the battery is securely mounted and there are no fluid leaks.
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I have army training... Have fun though!!
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Sounds fun, but taking all the crap out of my car... I'll think about it.
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^It takes maybe 10-15 mins maximum to take it all out. There is a member....Mike....with a 370z that comes fully loaded (his DD), and it takes him even less than 10 minutes.
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Also, would I need to have a helmet or are there lender ones? And do you guys tear things out at home or at the event?
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My car is gutted anyway. The only thing I have to take out is my toolbox, jack, cooler, and lawn chair. It's a mix of people who tear down there and tear down at home. There are about 10 loaner helmets there.
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This saturday people! I will also be at the Mercedes club event in Winchester on Sunday.
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
^It takes maybe 10-15 mins maximum to take it all out. There is a member....Mike....with a 370z that comes fully loaded (his DD), and it takes him even less than 10 minutes.
What all has to come out? (ah nevermind just re-read the original post.)
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Mike I won't be there this sat. Grad school owns me!
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^How about Sunday? It will be my first time running with the Mercedes club....they are well known for making high speed courses.
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Driving meets? Blasphemy!
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Anh.....get your ricer self out on Saturday! All the cool kids with subbies do it.
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Mike what's this MB thing? Where do I sign up? You going to come to the next ncca autocross? I guess I should start posting the ncca events as well. We need more Z's to come out. Even if they are stock we need more representation in AutoX.

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Man I am booked up on autocross like crazy for the next few weeks. Mercedes is a walk up only registration.....be there at 8am. Apparently it is usually only around 50 cars. I would assume with those numbers that there will be about 8 runs, and from talking with people they tend to be done around 2:30pm. This is the first time I am going to attend one of their events.....other than that I don't know much about their club. I do know that a lot of the s2k guys run with them.

Ohhh....I found a vid of the Moran mobile for its pole qualifying run at the Cumberland All Stars vs Capital Area Cobra Club duel on Friday. This event is a serious grudge match. Anyone who runs autox in the area knows how fast the XP cobras run. This car (and driver, Mike) also took FTD on Saturday over a formula car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ3WDqOX9og

The winner ended up being Brian Karwan in his 1850lb 250+whp SMF civic. He beat Fast Fred Kelley in the finals. Karwan is probably the odds on favorite to win the scca solo national championship this year.

Staged for the Final:


...and write-up of the event....
http://www.capitalareacobraclub.com/...ic,9344.0.html

Edit: Also the margin of victory in the final was about .014 seconds. That is how competitive this duel is.

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Man I wish I could have seen that! I see these other groups I need to hit all of them up in addition to ncca, and cdc. Oh I got new tires and bbk now.
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What tires and BBK?
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
What tires and BBK?
Yokohama advans 245/40/18. You know the tires that come on the Evo X, and the stock brembo calipers.
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So......I guess I will be the only one tomorrow. Sunday looks like it may rain. My car does........ok......at autocross speeds in the wet, but with the alignment/shock package I have the car is **** poor on the highway when it is raining hard. Thus...I won't be attending on Sunday if rain appears imminent.
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Well.....another weekend on good autox and people. It was a strong field (albeit small) on Saturday. A curve ball got thrown at the XP cobra guys that typically dominate this club. Gary H showed up in his stalker lotus kit car (1300lbs and well over 250whp), and took FTD by almost a half second over Fast Fred Kelly. I also had a co-driver this weekend.....which was interesting. Mike Moran hoped in to see what he could do with it. He is very, very fast. Same fella that drove in the above video. I was actually anxious for him to drive, and see how I stacked up against one of the best in the area. Two weeks ago he co-drove with Franklin Dam....who won the Northeast divisional a few months ago in his well prepped CSP miata. Too everyone's surprise Mike M was a full 1.5 seconds faster than Franklin. Any who....yes, I got beat in my own car lol. He ran a best of 43.39, which was about 3 seconds off FTD, and was 12th overall. My best clean run was a 44.33, but I coned away a 43.71 . In all honesty I wasn't expecting to be that close to Mike M. I was closer to cobras than I have ever been. Fast Fred came in with a 40.44 to top that group....ahead of regional SCCA XP champ Larry Casey. A newcomer, Glenn, who was fresh off whoopin' up on BMW NCC last week for FTD, was also in attendance. He managed to hold off "Smooth" Jim Harris for non-XP/M FTD in his M3. No in car video this week....forgot to grab the battery off the charger before I left.

Next week CDC is in Bowie, MD on Saturday (8/28). Much closer for some of you folks to come out and pop your autox cherry.

Results....too show the variety of cars, experience, and times:
First Last MY Make Model Time Diff-1st
Gary Hug 1968 Lotus Stalker 40.25 - FTD
Fred Kel 1965 FFR Roadster 40.44 0.19
Larry Cas 1965 FFR Roadster 40.86 0.61
Wade Cha 1965 FFR Roadster 40.87 0.62
Glenn Ty 1998 BMW M3 41.84 1.59
Jim Har 2004 Chevy Corvette Z06 42.40 2.15
Don Fit 1999 BMW M3 42.45 2.20
Jeff Dun 1995 BMW M3 42.59 2.34
Ryan Pal 2004 Subaru STi 42.76 2.51
Aron Par 2006 Lotus Elise 42.86 2.61
Frank T Dam 2000 Mazda Miata 43.02 2.77
Mike Mor 2003 Nissan 350Z 43.39 3.14
Mike Gol 1989 Toyota Corolla SR5 43.51 3.26
Al Sch 1966 Lonestar Cobra Replica 43.53 3.28
John L 2008 Subaru STi 43.64 3.39
Michael Lan 2003 Nissan 350Z 44.33 4.08 -FAIL
Jake Mor 1965 FFR Roadster 44.71 4.46
kcook 1996 BMW M3 44.82 4.57
Joe Sew 2004 Mazda Mazdaspeed MX-5 45.18 4.93
Richard Fan 2000 Subaru 2.5RS 45.59 5.34
Scott Til 1970 Triumph TR6 45.62 5.37
Mehr Pas 2000 Mazda Miata 45.68 5.43
Denny Mit 1993 Toyota MR2 45.95 5.70
Michael Kel 1995 Mazda Miata 46.05 5.80
Jacob Hur 1994 Subaru Impreza 46.21 5.96
Dean Hic 2006 Subaru STI 46.28 6.03
Ken Lea 1998 Pontiac Trans Am 46.35 6.10
Rock Star 1993 Mazda RX-7 46.54 6.29
Jason Hub 2002 Acura RSX-S 46.66 6.41
Denise How 1999 Mazda Miata 46.83 6.58
Jen Mor 1965 FFR Cobra 47.01 6.76
hepcatz 2008 Mazda Miata prht 48.47 8.22
Brian She 1985 Chevy Camaro 48.47 8.22
ConeHD 1996 BMW E36 M3 48.52 8.27
Edgar Mor 2010 Hyundai Genesis 48.67 8.42
Dutch 2009 Lotus Exige S 240 48.75 8.50
Earl Gue 1992 Mazda Miata 49.22 8.97
Curtis Huf 2006 Pontiac GTO 49.42 9.17
Ed Cha 1997 Mazda Miata 49.47 9.22
Allen Bis 2008 ERA FIA 49.67 9.42
Charles Huf 2006 Pontiac GTO 49.71 9.46
Kevin Aru 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 50.10 9.85
Peter Don 1999 Mazda Miata 50.24 9.99
waldig 2005 Chrysler Crossfire 50.77 10.52
James Rio 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 52.09 11.84
JP Rio 2005 Mitsubishi Evolution 53.12 12.87
Anthony Ngu 2001 Honda S2000 55.16 14.91
Carin McC 1985 Chevy Camaro 55.29 15.04
Rousana Sot 2010 Hyundai Genesis 64.83 24.58
Gingerbread Man 1996 Pontiac Firebird 99.99 59.74
Mean 47.80
I hope to see a few of you out next week .


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