I also noticed that trend with the "BS calling."

Honestly, I've learned more about ls1's and lt1's than VQ's on this site. Type "ls1" in the search engine and you get 1154 hits, type "lt1" you get 403 hits, and type "vq35" you get 184 hits. All the info is welcomed because I like learning about different cars...I'm generally interested in all them, some more than others. But the race forum sometimes seems like an ls1/lt1 forum with some 350z guys posting on it.

 

Yeah.....stinken Mustang Guys...

 

No stereotype, he's got a point ... if you could check the 'banned' list, you'd see a whole lot of GT trolls.

I've found it generally relates to pricing. The cheaper the car (preowned values) the younger the owners. Lets just say you won't get a Carrera GT2 owner in here saying "YOU'RE GHEY. MY CAR OWNZ YOUR Z"

While its somewhat more common with the younger, civic/crx/integra and mustang gt kids.

While f-bodies are still one of the best bang/buck cars out there at $10-15k, they generally display a lot more maturity on the forums.

 

I just think there are a lot of Camaro/Firebird owners. Even on clubsi there are a lot of them and I have no idea why they would spend time on that site.

If your car is faster maybe you like spending time around people that have slower cars.


See you later I'm heading for the Mazda Miata forum!

 

Its just an honest observation. There have been many more troublemaking Mustang owners than F-body owners. I'm not picking on anyone for it.

 

To continue my learning... VQ35? I missed that one..whats the acronym VQ35? 3.5Liter.Im guessing... but VQ? Maybe a reason why it only showed up 184 times.. LOL

 

Ah, you brought up ClubSi. The racing forum (Si vs. All) there is a great example of what happens when car owners go too long living in an internet vacuum. They all manage to delude themselves as to the capabilties of their cars, and you end up with a bunch of folks living in rice denial. Notice you rarely see Si owners in there? That's because all of them that were living in a dream world were swept out when the owners of the cars they were claiming to kill swept in an cleaned house.

That brings me to a point some here on my350Z.com don't get. The owners of other cars serve as a kind of moderation in racing forums. Without said moderation, forums spiral into delusions and denial. The owners of other cars are important to the health of any racing forum.

As for me, I'm here to observe. It's always interesting whenever a new performance car comes out to watch the owners try to sort out their place in the pecking order. It's also funny to hear the puzzled outbursts of owners who're surprised at the limits of their car's abilities.

One last thing for Babystyle. When/if you get a GReddy turbo in your 350Z, please get a video of the stock internal engine running in double-digit boost. Videos of engines grenading always crack me up.

 

Its apparent to me that you don't really read whats posted. Also.. there is no K..its not SK8ER.. thats actually my last name...S8ER.. how its pronounced rather...



We are aware the Supra motor is a very strong motor.. capable of massive HP/TRQ numbers..running double digit boost levels. We also know what higher compression motors with aluminum blocks are capable of.. ahem..LS1 for example... hey maybe Nissan knows something about strengthening aluminum that GM isn't aware of or not exploiting. Its entirely possible. Im pretty sure Greddy is just running 5psi because even they are not 100% sure it will run excessive amounts safely and reliably. Sure it may run 10~14psi..for a while. It may blow up right away....it may take awhile. Fact is .. no one is sure at this point. If they were Im sure greddy would be testing their system at 10psi instead of 5psi. Face it... Greddy is after performance ... not just cheap pricing. Why run 5psi is it can run 10? give it time..and MAYBE they will be running that much. Until someone proves it can be done..ill remain with the rest.. skeptical. I do have to agree that 100hp added on is sweet... anyone know of pricing on these yet? or are they withholding that ?

 

So you're comparing the ability to run high boost on your 10.3:1 compression aluminum 350z block versus the 8.5:1 compression cast iron Supra block with forged internals that is setup to run forced induction? Head on over to clubrsx.com if you want to see what happens to people who think they can reliably run over 10psi on a high-output, high compression engine. I'll give you a hint:

 

You and S8ER95Z took the words right out of my mouth.

stock internal VQ + big boost = scrap

It's the same way on nearly every high compression, non-forged internal motor, LS1/LS6 included. But hey, if you don't believe me go right ahead. It's not my engine you'll be punching a rod through.

 

Irony. I "don't know much about imports", yet you're comparing the 2JZ to a VQ. Astonishing.

 

ok -- for all you people out there saying that 4 bangers like hondas cant run double digitd boost and that the vq engine can handle 15lbs boost on stock internals i have one word for you............TUNING!!!!!!

means all the diffrence in the world! --- throw 15psi on a vq motor without tunning,-- sure your gonna blow it up!!! no doubt

too many people thing that u just throw on some big turbos and get a boost controlled and crank it up! wrong

my boy runs 11psi everyday on his high reving 10.2:1 honda motor--- why --- he had it tunned properly

anyway -- i think that 15psi on the 350z motor with proper tunning would hold up just fine!!

sorry for the long rant, and this isnt made to flame or nothing -- just a little something i had to get out!

 

Nice post. I'd agree thay a very well-tuned VQ could creep into the double digits on boost, but it will still take it's toll on the engine in the long run. 15psi is a bit harder to believe - you'd end up retarding the timing so much that you'd lose almost everything you gained from the extra boost.

 

ok---- let me start off by saying i mostly know about honda's -- have one, and i am rebuilding --- but i do own a 350z and i am learning about it

ima put this in a honda perspective cause i know it best, but it will relate to any car'

problem is there are too many dumb *** honda drivers out there that put on a turbo kit, -- turn the psi up to 10, and blow their engine -- why --- no tunning

but all these people blowing their engines with no tunning go running around like chickens with their heads cut off thinking they know everything and telling everyone " yo yo yo --- u cant boost past 9psi on stock internals yo -- your **** will blow up " --- and everyone belives them --- sure u can boost past that on stock intenals --ive seen it -- ive seen 15psi on a stock honda motor -- just tunned very well

my big point is -- dont belive everything you hear --- cause u dont know how smart the person telling u this **** is-- and of course u can say the same about me-- but whatever --- ya know

 

i think it s the name of the site.... 350 ci = lt1, z= camaro z28, and us mustang guys are just straight up trolls

 

This is my opinion and forgive me if I am over generalizing. Being a refugee from the Ford camp where the domestic battles have been around longer than alot of people on this board, I have always found that the most of the Chevy/Dodge/Ford folks are genuine car lovers. They prefer their brand but they love most cars for what they are and their potential. I do not look at any car solely as a sum of its part but as a collection of parts. I see the fun in making each part of any car better and I have found that to be the prevailing feeling among most "car people" that I have ever met. I would never look at a Bel Air and see a Chevy even though that is what it is deep down. Actually, it is a piece of automotive history that most high priced imports may never achieve. I have been to alot of car shows that are just that, car shows. They feature all years, brands and models. Reading alot of the posts on here I kinda feel bad for the future of "hot rodding" with all of the people that take this too seriously. These are just cars, we need to realize that all, Honda, Ford, etc., owners are all like-minded and get along.

 

Thats why Im hesitant to say too much about the Z33s capabilities.. In the Domestic side of things.. it all tranfers around.. V8s, Compression, boost, etc.. The 350Z is different because they are producing so much HP N/A already. GM loves using FI on V6s to extract extra hp.. The new GTX/GTPs are rated at 260hp..and I think 280hp is coming shortly. So its a different ballgame. Maybe they will be able to hold the extra boost. I would just like to think the same physics that apply to a 350cid V8 with 10.5:1 compression (LT1.. LS1s aren't 350cid) would apply to a 3.5L V6 with similar compression.. and a weaker base (Aluminum vs Cast Iron)

 

And even they know enough to lower the compression ratio from 9.4:1 to 8.5:1. Even at 8.5:1 they strongly reccommend premium gas at only a few psi.

I guess the stock VQ has nobendium internals to run 15psi+ boost at 10.3:1 static compression.

 

i guess at this point well just have to sit back and wait awhile,-- and see what happens once some turbo setups start going into action