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Old 04-07-2007, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Zexy
... On a race car? I must disagree...
How's that? You won't see a race car using stock cats and stock y pipe.
A race car won't have anything other than test (race) pipes and a good exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
How's that? You won't see a race car using stock cats and stock y pipe.
A race car won't have anything other than test (race) pipes and a good exhaust.
I never mentioned anything about stock cats or y pipe. I disagreed that a NA car must be matched with a full test pipes and exhaust on a race car which in Jeremy's case isn't needed.

Some nice longtubes with a nice burns collector and stright outlet seems like a right application for this car!
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Sure, but as in my previous post, I also wrote with stock cats and Y-pipe. You deleted that sentence from your reply thereby changing the context of my post.
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
Sure, but as in my previous post, I also wrote with stock cats and Y-pipe. You deleted that sentence from your reply thereby changing the context of my post.

True. Thought you meant something else.. Appologies.
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kids kids, keep this thread clean!!


jk, ok, some headers soon and cams with in two weeks if i can make it that long without getting bored, i really need to get some of the cars out of my shop so i have room for my G35 to begin...
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Originally Posted by Zexy

Some nice longtubes with a nice burns collector and stright outlet seems like a right application for this car!
Now, you are talking. None of the headers are the market have a real merge collector on them. Burns makes a beautiful collector!!
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ok that does it, i am taking the TS headers i am getting for free, cutting off the runners, stepping them up into a nice 3 inch burns collector and see what happens!!
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Nice Jeremy. Make your own Keep us updated

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Burns Merge Collectors....FTMFW!!!


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thats what i need!!!
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actually, this is an even better collector for you.....This is a like what an NHRA Pro Stock car uses...

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Why would he need a collecter that a V8 1500-2000hp engine uses?
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Originally Posted by IP05G35
Why would he need a collecter that a V8 1500-2000hp engine uses?
collector envy
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It's not the size.. but, the design that he could utilize..
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its all about collector status!!
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Originally Posted by Trav4011
It's not the size.. but, the design that he could utilize..
actually the second type posted would absolutely stink for this application

look to F1 Jeremy...look to F1...seek and ye shall find If you want to see what the bad *** header setups are, look at what these guys run. Yes I know, they were 10 cylinder cars and now 8, and many have flat plae cranks and spin to 20,000 + rpm. So what. They have tiny displacement and eek out absolute insane levels of hp. Header "design" is a bit of a black art.....alot of trial and error (do you have a backpressure gauge? Very helpful if you really want to start playing with stuff!).

Call Burns...talk to them about your setup....they will tell you the right ones to use

The great thing about this stuff is its all been done 100 times...just on different engines. But again, so what

Exhaust design takes only a couple of things into account - pressure and velocity. It all falls into these 2 very basic categories. Determining the primary size, the type of merge collector, the length of primaries, the length of the tubes, etc all comes down to the physical properties of the engine, and things like firing order, cam timing.

Call Burns up, tell em what you've got and what you want...they are very helpful

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^ Good ideas
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yes i plan on talking to burns this week. i know how to weld good enough to make things stick together forever, i might polish up my skills so i can save a lot of money and start doing it all myself.


burns has a full catalog of everything you need from mandrel bent piping of any size to mufflers, collectors, everything!!
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
actually the second type posted would absolutely stink for this application

look to F1 Jeremy...look to F1...seek and ye shall find If you want to see what the bad *** header setups are, look at what these guys run. Yes I know, they were 10 cylinder cars and now 8, and many have flat plae cranks and spin to 20,000 + rpm. So what. They have tiny displacement and eek out absolute insane levels of hp. Header "design" is a bit of a black art.....alot of trial and error (do you have a backpressure gauge? Very helpful if you really want to start playing with stuff!).

Call Burns...talk to them about your setup....they will tell you the right ones to use

The great thing about this stuff is its all been done 100 times...just on different engines. But again, so what

Exhaust design takes only a couple of things into account - pressure and velocity. It all falls into these 2 very basic categories. Determining the primary size, the type of merge collector, the length of primaries, the length of the tubes, etc all comes down to the physical properties of the engine, and things like firing order, cam timing.

Call Burns up, tell em what you've got and what you want...they are very helpful
Actually, it's hard to say if it would work or not.. most exhaust tuning is done by trial and error.. granted there's a lot of math that goes into getting it "close". Without spending millions of dollars, trial and error is usually the best way.. It's hard to say what this particular engine "wants" in terms primary and collector design.. especially since so little has been tried in the aftermarket for this particular engine.
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i am hoping to get luck the first time!!! it is a lot of work but i will figure it out


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