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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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Crazy stuff. I can't wait till you start developing stuff for the general public!
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SGSash
It's a compromise, I'm not willing to lose 5hp for a strut tower bar of which I cannot measure the gains. If I start seeing spot welds shearing, well i'll know I was wrong!!!
I like the way you think.
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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great experiments!!! I love it.

some people have suggested ITBs. the problem with an ITB setup is that they usually have very short runners and are tuned for really high rpms. The OP is trying to maximize the power available under 7500 rpm.
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Wow, that is interesting... I wouldn't expect to feel much of a difference with true street tires (220+ treadwear) but I would imagine a "R" DOT tire would create enough grip for a driver like yourself to notice. That suggests the chassis is stiffer than I gave it credit for.

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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Well, I can't REALLY say that since I haven't done a proper back to back. But next time I'm at the track I will take the bar off after a session and feel exactly how the balance changes, and of course will have some data to see if i'm right!

Ok are you guys ready for this next post?
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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YESSS!!! next post!
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Ok so here it is!

I had the adapter flange machined today and welded up a little transistion from the 3.5" vband to the LS2 tb flange. My aluminum welding is finally coming along! I was really happy with how the vband flange welded up. I pre-headed the big flange a bit and it wasn't bad. Could be better though. Mounted the throttle body on and just a short section of 3.5" tubing and BPi flow stack and it was dyno time!

So this plenum made some real power! It took forever to tune the car though, because its tuned via throttle body (tps with motec m800), so as soon as you drastically change the throttle body size everything the engine references for how much air is coming in is thrown out the window. It took me 10min just to get it to run! But now it's actually idling and running surprisingly well considering the volume of the plenum and the size of the throttle body. It actually idles at 10% throttle body opening believe it or not! GM has a really neat design to let large amounts of throttle opening only open up a small amount of area for driveability.

Lots more fine tuning to do with this thing, but I'll wait until I have a firm setup before I worry about those details.

Carbotron did a great job with the plenum, I mean the guy made a part that actually fit - WELL - WITHOUT HAVING A 350Z TO TEST IT ON!!! Just a bunch of photos I sent him with a ruler. Really hard worker this dude is, I'm really impressed!!!

As soon as I got it on the dyno I had to rush a little bit, so the tune was rough around the edges, but the car made peak power of 327.1whp, about 17whp over what it baselined a few weeks ago, when it would only make 310whp even with the skunk2 spacer, even though I've made 315whp previously. The reason I think is because the engine is getting tired, its puffing a bit of smoke out of the breather now and oil builds up in the intake when it never used to !

The new intake made more power from 4000rpm up, obviously making the biggest gains up top where the restriction was the most. We recorded everything with the gopro on my head all day, and I even had the thing on my head while i ripped it around my complex just 15 minutes ago but the god damn card was full and I didn't realize. dammit. car is so needlessly fast with the cold air and no body panels! (no doors, no hood, fenders, side skirts, carbon hatch with no glass, no rear bumper!)

This engine is being abused so hard now that it's coming out soon. Revving to 8000rpm just for fun. needless abuse.



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Dyno charts to follow, along with a short video
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Looking great Sasha and good work on this project as usual!
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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i wish u had an hr to **** around with
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Cool....Does the hood still close ?
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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look like half a toilet seat was your inspiration for the plenum, gj!
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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lol
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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It actually looks more like lungs to me
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Are you going to release to public?
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mysterymann
Are you going to release to public?
And if you're not going to manufacture these, will you at least "open source" your findings so somebody else can manufacture them?
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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I would like one lol
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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would definitely be interested in one
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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Can the LS2 Drive-by-wire TB be used with the factory ECU? I know you would need a reflash in the very least, but I wonder if they can be wired up properly.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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I am pretty sure Sasha is using a Motec 800 to control it.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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I will take one as well! Thats beautiful!
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