327whp New Intake Plenum + LS2 90mm TB - Dynos, Video, Pics
02-04-2010, 09:10 AM
#121
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Alabama
Posts: 497
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
because 327RWHP means absolutely nothing to me unless ive seen other cars dyno on a dynapack to have something to compare to, and no im not buying anything and im not interested in buying it, i just think it would be nice to know how much power they are really making in comparision to everyone else
02-04-2010, 09:16 AM
#122
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (564)
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 19,266
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes
on
5 Posts
No dyno # on it's own means anything. None of them are "more right" than another. And If you take the time to read their posts in their entirety, since they started posting here, you would answer many of your own scepticisms. What they have shown are the changes every step of the way, and that is the important thing. I don't know Sasha well at all, but I know enough to know he has no need to blow smoke up anyone's ***. It's all just testing for testing's sake. Maybe these mods will trickle down into something people can use - maybe they will be prohibitively expensive. Who cares? Isn't it enough to just sit back and watch what develops?
They are making much more power than you are, that I can assure you (not a knock on you btw, just the realities of the situation). Much more than any bolt on Z either I'm sure.
Perhaps you guys would be happier if Sasha closed his business for a month and just did a dyno tour around the country?
They are making much more power than you are, that I can assure you (not a knock on you btw, just the realities of the situation). Much more than any bolt on Z either I'm sure.
Perhaps you guys would be happier if Sasha closed his business for a month and just did a dyno tour around the country?
Last edited by Z1 Performance; 02-04-2010 at 09:22 AM.
02-04-2010, 09:32 AM
#123
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Alabama
Posts: 497
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
No dyno # on it's own means anything. None of them are "more right" than another. And If you take the time to read their posts in their entirety, since they started posting here, you would answer many of your own scepticisms. What they have shown are the changes every step of the way, and that is the important thing. I don't know Sasha well at all, but I know enough to know he has no need to blow smoke up anyone's ***. It's all just testing for testing's sake. Maybe these mods will trickle down into something people can use - maybe they will be prohibitively expensive. Who cares? Isn't it enough to just sit back and watch what develops?
They are making much more power than you are, that I can assure you (not a knock on you btw, just the realities of the situation). Much more than any bolt on Z either I'm sure.
Perhaps you guys would be happier if Sasha closed his business for a month and just did a dyno tour around the country?
They are making much more power than you are, that I can assure you (not a knock on you btw, just the realities of the situation). Much more than any bolt on Z either I'm sure.
Perhaps you guys would be happier if Sasha closed his business for a month and just did a dyno tour around the country?
yea im pretty sure they are making more than me (for now) or any other bolton G/Z it would be pitiful if they werent but i was just saying it would be interesting to know HOW MUCH more.
02-04-2010, 01:24 PM
#126
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: nj
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
For reference, here's that car in some track vid's and it looks like the real deal to me (300+ whp).
http://www.vimeo.com/4311175
http://www.vimeo.com/4311175
02-05-2010, 02:30 AM
#127
Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Largo, MD
Posts: 183
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That difference in hp gain isn't going to change no matter what dyno he puts it on. If he started on a stingy mustang dyno, that intially read low numbers, his final numbers would be lower also, but the difference from base hp to final hp will still be marginally the same.
02-05-2010, 02:33 AM
#128
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: lo
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
hello, i know im off topic but im new and i dont know how to post yet hahah. but i was wondering if the 2004 nissan 350z are good cars im lookin to purchase a 04 350z roadster but it has 80k miles on it tell me what you guys think
02-05-2010, 06:29 AM
#129
For reference, here's that car in some track vid's and it looks like the real deal to me (300+ whp).
http://www.vimeo.com/4311175
http://www.vimeo.com/4311175
Thanks Adam for sticking up for me, I appreciate the kind (and logical!) comments.
As for the girl being brave, thats my gf and she's the best. I told her to flash the HIDs at any slow cars ahead of us
However that video isn't the best, it's at a slow 2nd/3rd gear track. Watch the August 8th Mosport one - it's way more exciting. As for the dynapack/dynojet crap. I don't want to get into it but every car we've had on our dynapack has read lower than at a dynojet. I do want to take my race car to a dynojet if not only to be able to hear the decel sound of the engine against the 2000lb drum when you let off the throttle at 7500+ rpm. Soooo hot.
Next tests up are to see what happens when we use the stock ~70mm throttle body as a restrictor but diffusing it to 90mm on both sides and with the larger plenum, perhaps the 90mm throttle body won't even make much of a difference to prove required. Which would make the tuning issue a hell of a lot easier!
Some of our tests are almost best not shown to the public, because we are essentially giving away free research and development that other companies could jump on and take a stab at producing a part before we were able to. The main reason why I'm doing it is because I know I always love reading about development and back to back testing like this, and it helps us build credibility in the community. No BS here!
02-05-2010, 11:29 AM
#133
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Corral de Tierra
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Actually, in that video we were testing different heads and the car only had 280whp! Haha. The 30hp did make a big difference believe it or not.
Thanks Adam for sticking up for me, I appreciate the kind (and logical!) comments.
As for the girl being brave, thats my gf and she's the best. I told her to flash the HIDs at any slow cars ahead of us However that video isn't the best, it's at a slow 2nd/3rd gear track. Watch the August 8th Mosport one - it's way more exciting.
As for the dynapack/dynojet crap. I don't want to get into it but every car we've had on our dynapack has read lower than at a dynojet. I do want to take my race car to a dynojet if not only to be able to hear the decel sound of the engine against the 2000lb drum when you let off the throttle at 7500+ rpm. Soooo hot.
Next tests up are to see what happens when we use the stock ~70mm throttle body as a restrictor but diffusing it to 90mm on both sides and with the larger plenum, perhaps the 90mm throttle body won't even make much of a difference to prove required. Which would make the tuning issue a hell of a lot easier!
Some of our tests are almost best not shown to the public, because we are essentially giving away free research and development that other companies could jump on and take a stab at producing a part before we were able to. The main reason why I'm doing it is because I know I always love reading about development and back to back testing like this, and it helps us build credibility in the community. No BS here!
Thanks Adam for sticking up for me, I appreciate the kind (and logical!) comments.
As for the girl being brave, thats my gf and she's the best. I told her to flash the HIDs at any slow cars ahead of us
However that video isn't the best, it's at a slow 2nd/3rd gear track. Watch the August 8th Mosport one - it's way more exciting. As for the dynapack/dynojet crap. I don't want to get into it but every car we've had on our dynapack has read lower than at a dynojet. I do want to take my race car to a dynojet if not only to be able to hear the decel sound of the engine against the 2000lb drum when you let off the throttle at 7500+ rpm. Soooo hot.
Next tests up are to see what happens when we use the stock ~70mm throttle body as a restrictor but diffusing it to 90mm on both sides and with the larger plenum, perhaps the 90mm throttle body won't even make much of a difference to prove required. Which would make the tuning issue a hell of a lot easier!
Some of our tests are almost best not shown to the public, because we are essentially giving away free research and development that other companies could jump on and take a stab at producing a part before we were able to. The main reason why I'm doing it is because I know I always love reading about development and back to back testing like this, and it helps us build credibility in the community. No BS here!
Thanks again,
Justin
02-05-2010, 11:57 AM
#134
Registered User
02-14-2010, 12:29 AM
#138
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Why not use a cable throttle from older GM cars? The installation may be more complicated, but then you won't need to deal with the ECU not being able to control it.
