Konig sucks. Help me find wheels.
I ordered some konig back in January. They told me the front would arrive in late March. Then it became early April. Now they are saying it's pushed back ANOTHER 60 days. Thing is, they sort of have an attitude about it. Thats what pisses me off.
What I had ordered:
Konigh ampliform flow formed wheels.
FRONT 18x9.5 +25 (19.5#)
Rear 18x10 +50 (19.5#)
I paid $890 so $955 with tax
What else is out there around this price and weight with similar offsets? I'm sick of this company jacking me around. Their product may be good at a good price but if they can't get it to me then the whole thing is moot.
What I had ordered:
Konigh ampliform flow formed wheels.
FRONT 18x9.5 +25 (19.5#)
Rear 18x10 +50 (19.5#)
I paid $890 so $955 with tax
What else is out there around this price and weight with similar offsets? I'm sick of this company jacking me around. Their product may be good at a good price but if they can't get it to me then the whole thing is moot.
I got mine from America's Tire for around the same price as you. It only took one day for them to come in. Had I went with the bronze wheels I would have had to wait as they were on crazy back order. It's worth calling America's Tire if you still want the Konigs as you'll have a hard time finding similar new wheels for that price point.
Curious about those offsets. Hopefully those are going on a 350Z.
Curious about those offsets. Hopefully those are going on a 350Z.
Grey wheels are ugly IMO. I am waiting for the bronze ones. What is pissing me off is they can't to seem to give me a somewhat accurate time when they should come in. They as in KONIG wheels themselves. I work in manufacturing, Rockwell Automation. There is no reason why they can't figure where they are in China and get a hold of the shipping company to find out when a ship can take them. I honestly feel like they just don't care. I'll. Just keep calling them until they make the calls themselves. It seems the only way to get these done in this industry today.
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Grey wheels are ugly IMO. I am waiting for the bronze ones. What is pissing me off is they can't to seem to give me a somewhat accurate time when they should come in. They as in KONIG wheels themselves. I work in manufacturing, Rockwell Automation. There is no reason why they can't figure where they are in China and get a hold of the shipping company to find out when a ship can take them. I honestly feel like they just don't care. I'll. Just keep calling them until they make the calls themselves. It seems the only way to get these done in this industry today.
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I don't really know what to make of this whole corona virus thing. 1,500 die out of 3 billion people and they shut down an entire country? Seriously? 60,000 people die each year of the flu. No one bats an eye.
Could you imagine 800 people dying of a disease so all of Chicago, New York, LA, Houston, Philly, Cleveland, etc. get completely shut down? Unlikely. With how much China withholds information its more probable they have something completely non sequitor going on over there.
Could you imagine 800 people dying of a disease so all of Chicago, New York, LA, Houston, Philly, Cleveland, etc. get completely shut down? Unlikely. With how much China withholds information its more probable they have something completely non sequitor going on over there.
I mean if you want wheels I can sell you my Voxxs for cheap but you probably won't like them. They are 18s with a +25 offset and stock sized supersports. RPF1s are cool but you don't like them, hit up TF-works and see if they have anything in stock.
What do you guys think of grabbing the +35 offset wheels and running a 5 mm spacer? I read in a few places that +30 on a 9.5 wheel is the sweet spot for steering response. Worth it to grab those. Konig literally has 3 left.
I don't normally like to run spacers but I will if I have to
I don't normally like to run spacers but I will if I have to
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What do you guys think of grabbing the +35 offset wheels and running a 5 mm spacer? I read in a few places that +30 on a 9.5 wheel is the sweet spot for steering response. Worth it to grab those. Konig literally has 3 left.
I don't normally like to run spacers but I will if I have to
I don't normally like to run spacers but I will if I have to
I have a drawer full of spacers because I adjust for all six sets in my garage and not one set has an identical offset to any of the others. Should be noted that I do NOT like spacers, especially slip-ons without extended studs. Tried a set of 10mm slip-ons and even though it felt right and proper torque was achieved after ~6 full turns, the lugs still loosened. No thanks. But I've said it a thousand times, sometimes one has to do stuff they don't like to achieve an end goal. In this case, spacers are a small penalty to pay for performance.
Steering response - well, read ANY of my posts concerning wheels, alignment, hill runs, etc. 90% of them emphasize high steering response even at the expense of ultimate grip. My current set-up 9.5/10.5s with offsets of +9 and +19 F/R respective and 245/275 S04s with stock range alignment, has the same turn-in response as my 9.5" RPF1s and my S-Tune LMZ5s. As you can see by the wheels I cite, the key here is not just offsets (which I run between a low of +9 to a high of +23) but alignment, wheel construction, and in particular, low weight. Stiff, low weight wheels and tires plus a good alignment all play as big a part as offset. +30 is fine for "narrower" wheels and tires, +20 (or so) is better with wider section widths. (>9.5")
OK so you are running REALLY low offset with no negative effect to handling. I too really dislike spacers. I always feel like something is wrong. I had a BMW that was crazy sensitive because of the way I built it and anytime I put spacers anywhere I could feel the vibration. Even the best of the best spacers. Didn't matter
I have the 18x10 +20 for the rears already. They seem to have plenty of those (like over 40 in stock). Is there really an advantage to running the slightly smaller 9.5 +25 on the front or would I be better of grabbing the 18x10s for all around. I almost did this to begin with honestly. I figured it would allow to me run square in the future but still be able to run 255/275 in the beginning to feel the car out.
I have the 18x10 +20 for the rears already. They seem to have plenty of those (like over 40 in stock). Is there really an advantage to running the slightly smaller 9.5 +25 on the front or would I be better of grabbing the 18x10s for all around. I almost did this to begin with honestly. I figured it would allow to me run square in the future but still be able to run 255/275 in the beginning to feel the car out.
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If you can't wait, get the 10s and run the tires staggered, 255/275. It'll work and fit fine. Your tire selection will be more critical for steering response at that point. If you run some flaccid sidewall cheap tires (the no name kind from my "home country", laff
), you can expect a decrease in steering response.
Stick to a nice set (pretty much any UHP or Max Perf or at least UHP-A/S type and brand sold on TireRack as a guideline), you'll be fine.
Like I said, it's a confluence of all the factors that determine how responsive and how well handling your car is. Suspension, tires, alignment. Despite being the seeming critical point, the wheels are secondary to all of that.
Stick to a nice set (pretty much any UHP or Max Perf or at least UHP-A/S type and brand sold on TireRack as a guideline), you'll be fine.
Like I said, it's a confluence of all the factors that determine how responsive and how well handling your car is. Suspension, tires, alignment. Despite being the seeming critical point, the wheels are secondary to all of that.
I feel like these 18x10s are going to clear the front, non brembo, brakes. There is a ton of space between the inside of the top spokes to the hub.
Anybody have a tape measure and some HR brakes? Can you measure the distance between the outside of the front brakes and the face of the hub. My car is like and hour and a half away.
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