can easily be obtained - they are - $690 a set shipped, takes about 45 days to get. Air shipping is available for an additional cost, cuts it down to about 2-3 weeks.

 

$690... are these for the MCR carnards or the nismo ones? The MCR consist of 4 pieces right?

 

Price is for MCR

NISMO does not sell canards for the V3 bumper

 

Are these what you are referring to?

 

those are not offered for sale unless you have an 380RS-C

 

Well I think someone needs to start making some! I guess I better get to work!

 

+1 make sure they're compatible with the reflectors too.

 

Explain "compatible"?

 

If you add canards to the front will it screw with the aero properties of the Nismo?

Stock, the areo kit is functional and I beleive there is probably a balance between the downforce of the front splitter and the rear wing.

If you get an unbalanced amount of downforce, for example, adding canards to the front or adjusting a wing agressivly for massive rear downforce will this cause unbalanced handling, or in the case of an agressivly set rear spoiler, make the front end go light because there is so much pressure on the rear?

 

Meaning without having to fill the bumper in.

 

I cannot confirm, but I do believe MCR wind-tunnel tests their products. That red 350Z is also tracked a good amount, so they have more data to compare.

Honestly though, most will be adding these diffusers simply for look.

 

^ I was watching a video on an Evo getting tested in a wind tunnel. (I think it was posted on my350z somewhere)

and they tested the car with and without aero parts and had special scales to determine the amout of downforce applied to each section of the car.

I beleive the sections were the front downforce from the front bumper with and without canards. Downforce fromt he rear wheel arches. And downforce with and without a wing.

The results were pretty amazing. When the canards and wing were added the downforce was very noticable in the numbers.

 

That is mainly why I want them. They look bada$$

 

Front canards don't add much downforce, and I doubt you'll be reaching the speeds where it'll actually affect things.

 

Your opinion is noted.

However, dive plane's do inhibit increased down force and can be designed accordingly. As for some companies who use 4 canard's, they are usually smaller in surface area and take up less space on the bumper. Companies (such as the Nismo 380RS-C) that use 2 canards on the bumper are often larger in surface area and have quite a bit more rake.

The most common are the use of 4 canards as the smaller surface area and limited rake often are in accordance to developing increased down force at much higher speeds, and often has little affect at lower speeds. This is in turn best for "street" applications, and most used on "show" cars.

The most aggressive we should take into consideration are that of the minimum 2 Canard utilization as seen on the RS-C Nismo race car. These are much larger, have an incredibly aggressive rake and often the trailing tip angle is between 45-75 degree's, sometimes even greater. This is for utilization of slow to medium speed tracks where traction is most indicative through mechanical grip.

Now, if you have a high rake, high angle canard set, you can counter the increased drag by having evacuation space so a given amount of air does not pressure against the canard. This is my proposal and would be easily achieved by having the canard be able to be spaced away from the bumper fascia to achieve the evacuation space.

, you do have a very valid question which is made into point here. If you want to utilize canards, or at least an aggressive type canard set up, you must have a functional amount of rear drag (down force) supplied by a rear wing. If not, you could run into the rear end lifting and higher speeds, which would create a very unstable environment for the car, and not to forget, the driver.

-JM

 

^Thanks

Here is the video I was talking about "Cyber Evo - Tsukuba Time Attack"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqjKxDFEK98

Can anyone translate this? I'm really upset its not in english, it looks like they describe the areo dynamic properties of the car with different options throughouly.

 

Pretty neat little clip there!

As far as our stock Nismo's with their V3 spoilers, you could always add rear dive planes to the rear bumper on either side behind the rear wheels.

However, you must know if that particular structural member can bear the load of an extra 50-100 pounds of weight on extreme conditions (wind speed). Extra inner-bumper reinforcements should be made to accommodate this. Simple bars that connect to the inner bumper with flange to secure canards to.

FYI: 1 KG = (roughly) 2.2 LBS. (Cyber Evo there was running around 80 lb/s force and 100 lb/s force F&R respectively) I could not catch what air speed they were testing at though. I assume maybe 100 mph (or 160 kph).


PS: 2:44 into this video is pretty nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSiNZQ0LVqk ...I did not know the owner of the Cyber Evo was a Dentist either! LOL

 

those canards looks like the ones off the Nismo V2.

 

Those canards looks like the ones off the Nismo V2 front bumper.

 

i talked with high end performance who did this and they used the Nismo canards, they said it'll fit the ver 3 bumpers jus fine.