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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakeside
Just take a look at my Mods! If you do a tasteful job and use top notch parts you can MOST definately improve upon the Nismo... To each their own.

Best not to do it half assed.

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ive never been one to half *** anything and i dont plan on starting anytime soon. btw you have a great list of mods
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SHIROZE
my unmolested will just keep going up in value with all the folks jacking them up - must only be 1,000 or so left after 2 years of moding and crashing. What will the next 3-5 years look like?

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do you HONESTLY believe the value of your car will increase over time? good god be realistic! what were they worth brand new? 40-45k? and how much are they now? 25-30k? good luck with your price appreciation.

btw if you dont believe me i can post up links with Nismo's in that price range
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by uaintsokool
do you HONESTLY believe the value of your car will increase over time? good god be realistic! what were they worth brand new? 40-45k? and how much are they now? 25-30k? good luck with your price appreciation.

btw if you dont believe me i can post up links with Nismo's in that price range
You're exactly right - bought mine @ the low end of the above range with 233 miles and that was high to me. Also, not worried about appreciation. Look at history in relation to the E30 M3-5,000 made over 5 years sold for $35K with some going for around $30K at the end. Now 20 years later, low miles documented can fetch 50-60K or more. 100K miles go for around $20K. Why - guys modding for racing and crashing. Probably only 2,000 left and counting down. All that said, mine will be in my garage forever - so selling for profit is no concern - just fun.

Hopefully you and Zim will go head to head and create 2 well modded Nismos that make the rest of us drool and win a bunch of hardware.
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The Nismo doesn't blend into the crowd at all!!!
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Originally Posted by cubs4worldseris
The Nismo doesn't blend into the crowd at all!!!
Its an attention *****! I luv it...

I am no where's finished modding my Nismo! I have some more exterior work to do then most likely I will Boost it with a GTM TT stage 1 kit with other supporting mods. I wanted to bite the bullet and start ordering everything but my woman has been off work for 4 weeks with some wrist/tendon issue. So I need to watch my spending for awhile...

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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SHIROZE
You're exactly right - bought mine @ the low end of the above range with 233 miles and that was high to me. Also, not worried about appreciation. Look at history in relation to the E30 M3-5,000 made over 5 years sold for $35K with some going for around $30K at the end. Now 20 years later, low miles documented can fetch 50-60K or more. 100K miles go for around $20K. Why - guys modding for racing and crashing. Probably only 2,000 left and counting down. All that said, mine will be in my garage forever - so selling for profit is no concern - just fun.

Hopefully you and Zim will go head to head and create 2 well modded Nismos that make the rest of us drool and win a bunch of hardware.
ok well i dont want to get off on the wrong foot with my first thread in this forum. so let me clarify myself.....

I am not one to buy a special edition car and then trash it all up by buying cheap aftermarket parts and modding it like there is no tomorrow. i apologize if thats how i came off as. i owned an rsx s and bought only quality, tested and proven parts for it. my every move was well thought out and planned. and i plan to have the same mindset if i buy a nismo. my only intent in this thread was to see what the aftermarket it like for this car. im sorry but i cant buy a car and not mess with it, no matter how rare it is, but that is just how i am.

i can promise you guys that i will not disappoint the nismo family!!
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cubs4worldseris
The Nismo doesn't blend into the crowd at all!!!
i agree with you on that, but i meant that i dont want to go to a car meet or show and have the same looking nismo as someone else. id like to add a few small touches here and there to make mine to my liking,
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The aftermarket industry was slow to develop for the HR powerplant/drivetrain over the course of the first year and a half. Now there are many choices. Once UpRev cracked the ECM the flood gates openned.

You can go all out with bolt-ons, do a fully built engine or stroker, Boost it with a Greddy,JWT or GTM TT kit and now you can even bolt on your own Supercharger kit from GTM! Take your time and read. Lots of info in the VQ35HR section.

Various aftermarket clutches/flywheels available.

Good Luck

Zim

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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakeside
The aftermarket industry was slow to develop for the HR powerplant/drivetrain over the course of the first year and a half. Now there are many choices. Once UpRev cracked the ECM the flood gates openned.

You can go all out with bolt-ons, do a fully built engine or stroker, Boost it with a Greddy,JWT or GTM TT kit and now you can even bolt on your own Supercharger kit from GTM! Take your time and read. Lots of info in the VQ35HR section.

Various aftermarket clutches/flywheels available.

Good Luck

Zim
thanks for the info! dont worry ill be doing plenty of reading before i mod
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Originally Posted by SHIROZE
Look at history in relation to the E30 M3-5,000 made over 5 years sold for $35K with some going for around $30K at the end. Now 20 years later, low miles documented can fetch 50-60K or more.
So just to be a bit of a *****, I thought I would try and find out what the MSRP for an e30 m3 was (yup, right about $35,000) and do one of those online inflation adjusters (which I know isn't gospel, but hopefully might prevent this argument from being made again in the near future) and demonstrate how stupid this logic is:

If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $69,620.30
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $54,386.21

So... pretty much not much of an appreciation in value (if any at all).

http://www.coinnews.net/tools/cpi-inflation-calculator/

Just for the hell of it, I looked up the 1980 10th Anniversary 280zx that had all sorts of fancy special commemorative stuff. If you are unfamiliar with the car, here's a link: http://www.zhome.com/History/10thAnniv.htm

MSRP was right about $14,000, with 2010 dollars we get $37,040.70
Here's a link to one in immaculate shape listed for sale right now for $38,000 o.b.o.
http://www.oldride.com/sports_cars/571130.html

So what I can take from this is that if I had never done anything to my car and kept it all original (which is the condition it can be returned to within a day), hardly ever drive it to keep low miles on it, I might only lose the amount of money that I had to spend to insure it for 20-30 years? And all without actually enjoying the car. Sign me up.

A numbered plaque makes people think funny thoughts.

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Originally Posted by pacfwu
So just to be a bit of a *****, I thought I would try and find out what the MSRP for an e30 m3 was (yup, right about $35,000) and do one of those online inflation adjusters (which I know isn't gospel, but hopefully might prevent this argument from being made again in the near future) and demonstrate how stupid this logic is:

If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $69,620.30
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $54,386.21

So... pretty much not much of an appreciation in value (if any at all).

http://www.coinnews.net/tools/cpi-inflation-calculator/

Just for the hell of it, I looked up the 1980 10th Anniversary 280zx that had all sorts of fancy special commemorative stuff. If you are unfamiliar with the car, here's a link: http://www.zhome.com/History/10thAnniv.htm

MSRP was right about $14,000, with 2010 dollars we get $37,040.70
Here's a link to one in immaculate shape listed for sale right now for $38,000 o.b.o.
http://www.oldride.com/sports_cars/571130.html

So what I can take from this is that if I had never done anything to my car and kept it all original (which is the condition it can be returned to within a day), hardly ever drive it to keep low miles on it, I might only lose the amount of money that I had to spend to insure it for 20-30 years? And all without actually enjoying the car. Sign me up.

A numbered plaque makes people think funny thoughts.
Ok - UNCLE - However, just staying even with inflation ain't too bad is it? Oh wait - stupid me, I bought my Nismo relatively cheap with 233 miles and MSO - at roughly 68% of sticker. So at $35K, that's $24K for an E30 M3.

If we use a $24,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $47,739.64
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $37,293.40

Either way, its really the more stupid arguement of the two.

Did anyone want to post about learning to drive verses horsepower, suspension, and brakes?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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A numbered plaque makes people think funny thoughts.
lol so true.....i mean i see guys buy $300,000+ limited edition lambos and ferraris and send em off to be fully built and twin turbo'd straight from the dealer. is there anything wrong with that? not at all! to me cars (no matter how rare) are meant to be enjoyed by the owner however he/she wants.......
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Originally Posted by SHIROZE
Ok - UNCLE - However, just staying even with inflation ain't too bad is it? Oh wait - stupid me, I bought my Nismo relatively cheap with 233 miles and MSO - at roughly 68% of sticker. So at $35K, that's $24K for an E30 M3.

If we use a $24,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $47,739.64
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $37,293.40

Either way, its really the more stupid arguement of the two.

Did anyone want to post about learning to drive verses horsepower, suspension, and brakes?

My point was merely to suggest that anyone that makes the argument that the car will be worth more one day if kept in pristine condition, is a fool for worrying about what condition of car the NEXT owner will have.
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Originally Posted by uaintsokool
lol so true.....i mean i see guys buy $300,000+ limited edition lambos and ferraris and send em off to be fully built and twin turbo'd straight from the dealer. is there anything wrong with that? not at all! to me cars (no matter how rare) are meant to be enjoyed by the owner however he/she wants.......
May we all have that kind of disposable income someday! Oh - and live on a track
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May we all have that kind of disposable income someday! Oh - and live on a track
that would be a dream come true.......
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dont mod the nismo, youll most likely F it up
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Do you care to give a more well thought out response as to how I'll most likely f it up?
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Originally Posted by BillytheKid
dont mod the nismo, youll most likely F it up

With your 80 posts, I have to question just how much you have contributed to the my350z forum community!!!

Wake the F' up & crawl outta your Mama's basement and get a MOF'in life already....

Zim
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LOL @ this thread.

I have to agree though, for the average driver, there's not a lot to do with a Nismo to "improve" the car. I like power, and the car is a dog in stock form, so I will be making more power with mine, but I have no intention of taking it to a track other than for fun once or twice.

Lakeside's car makes a good example of a nicely modded Z, nismo or otherwise. I however don't see the point of getting a Nismo to later change wheels and suspension, might as well just get a touring for less money and go from there. IMO, the factory Nismo body kit is the best looking one out there though.

As to the value argument... that's retarded. Cars are meant to be enjoyed. I worked in a restoration shop for a bit. The money people spent was insane, to make an old or rare car exactly like new or better, whatever they wanted. The goal was so that they could DRIVE and ENJOY the car, not sell it for what they paid or more. Any nice, restored, original car that you see sell for a couple hundred grand, I guarantee you has more than that spent on it to make it that way. Cars are not an investement, it's about the value you place on the experience, and what a specific car is worth to a particular owner. That's the best way to look at it.

I love my nismo, and will mod it and drive it and enjoy it.
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Whatever you do, don't do this:
https://my350z.com/forum/nismo-350z/...er-delete.html
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