NISMO aftermarket?
btw if you dont believe me i can post up links with Nismo's in that price range
do you HONESTLY believe the value of your car will increase over time? good god be realistic! what were they worth brand new? 40-45k? and how much are they now? 25-30k? good luck with your price appreciation.
btw if you dont believe me i can post up links with Nismo's in that price range
btw if you dont believe me i can post up links with Nismo's in that price range
Hopefully you and Zim will go head to head and create 2 well modded Nismos that make the rest of us drool and win a bunch of hardware.
Its an attention *****! I luv it...I am no where's finished modding my Nismo! I have some more exterior work to do then most likely I will Boost it with a GTM TT stage 1 kit with other supporting mods. I wanted to bite the bullet and start ordering everything but my woman has been off work for 4 weeks with some wrist/tendon issue. So I need to watch my spending for awhile...

Zim
You're exactly right - bought mine @ the low end of the above range with 233 miles and that was high to me. Also, not worried about appreciation. Look at history in relation to the E30 M3-5,000 made over 5 years sold for $35K with some going for around $30K at the end. Now 20 years later, low miles documented can fetch 50-60K or more. 100K miles go for around $20K. Why - guys modding for racing and crashing. Probably only 2,000 left and counting down. All that said, mine will be in my garage forever - so selling for profit is no concern - just fun.
Hopefully you and Zim will go head to head and create 2 well modded Nismos that make the rest of us drool and win a bunch of hardware.
Hopefully you and Zim will go head to head and create 2 well modded Nismos that make the rest of us drool and win a bunch of hardware.
I am not one to buy a special edition car and then trash it all up by buying cheap aftermarket parts and modding it like there is no tomorrow. i apologize if thats how i came off as. i owned an rsx s and bought only quality, tested and proven parts for it. my every move was well thought out and planned. and i plan to have the same mindset if i buy a nismo. my only intent in this thread was to see what the aftermarket it like for this car. im sorry but i cant buy a car and not mess with it, no matter how rare it is, but that is just how i am.
i can promise you guys that i will not disappoint the nismo family!!
The aftermarket industry was slow to develop for the HR powerplant/drivetrain over the course of the first year and a half. Now there are many choices. Once UpRev cracked the ECM the flood gates openned.
You can go all out with bolt-ons, do a fully built engine or stroker, Boost it with a Greddy,JWT or GTM TT kit and now you can even bolt on your own Supercharger kit from GTM! Take your time and read. Lots of info in the VQ35HR section.
Various aftermarket clutches/flywheels available.
Good Luck
Zim
You can go all out with bolt-ons, do a fully built engine or stroker, Boost it with a Greddy,JWT or GTM TT kit and now you can even bolt on your own Supercharger kit from GTM! Take your time and read. Lots of info in the VQ35HR section.
Various aftermarket clutches/flywheels available.
Good Luck
Zim
Last edited by Lakeside; Sep 13, 2010 at 02:01 PM.
The aftermarket industry was slow to develop for the HR powerplant/drivetrain over the course of the first year and a half. Now there are many choices. Once UpRev cracked the ECM the flood gates openned.
You can go all out with bolt-ons, do a fully built engine or stroker, Boost it with a Greddy,JWT or GTM TT kit and now you can even bolt on your own Supercharger kit from GTM! Take your time and read. Lots of info in the VQ35HR section.
Various aftermarket clutches/flywheels available.
Good Luck
Zim
You can go all out with bolt-ons, do a fully built engine or stroker, Boost it with a Greddy,JWT or GTM TT kit and now you can even bolt on your own Supercharger kit from GTM! Take your time and read. Lots of info in the VQ35HR section.
Various aftermarket clutches/flywheels available.
Good Luck
Zim
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $69,620.30
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $54,386.21
So... pretty much not much of an appreciation in value (if any at all).
http://www.coinnews.net/tools/cpi-inflation-calculator/
Just for the hell of it, I looked up the 1980 10th Anniversary 280zx that had all sorts of fancy special commemorative stuff. If you are unfamiliar with the car, here's a link: http://www.zhome.com/History/10thAnniv.htm
MSRP was right about $14,000, with 2010 dollars we get $37,040.70
Here's a link to one in immaculate shape listed for sale right now for $38,000 o.b.o.
http://www.oldride.com/sports_cars/571130.html
So what I can take from this is that if I had never done anything to my car and kept it all original (which is the condition it can be returned to within a day), hardly ever drive it to keep low miles on it, I might only lose the amount of money that I had to spend to insure it for 20-30 years? And all without actually enjoying the car. Sign me up.
A numbered plaque makes people think funny thoughts.
Last edited by pacfwu; Sep 13, 2010 at 05:08 PM.
So just to be a bit of a *****, I thought I would try and find out what the MSRP for an e30 m3 was (yup, right about $35,000) and do one of those online inflation adjusters (which I know isn't gospel, but hopefully might prevent this argument from being made again in the near future) and demonstrate how stupid this logic is:
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $69,620.30
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $54,386.21
So... pretty much not much of an appreciation in value (if any at all).
http://www.coinnews.net/tools/cpi-inflation-calculator/
Just for the hell of it, I looked up the 1980 10th Anniversary 280zx that had all sorts of fancy special commemorative stuff. If you are unfamiliar with the car, here's a link: http://www.zhome.com/History/10thAnniv.htm
MSRP was right about $14,000, with 2010 dollars we get $37,040.70
Here's a link to one in immaculate shape listed for sale right now for $38,000 o.b.o.
http://www.oldride.com/sports_cars/571130.html
So what I can take from this is that if I had never done anything to my car and kept it all original (which is the condition it can be returned to within a day), hardly ever drive it to keep low miles on it, I might only lose the amount of money that I had to spend to insure it for 20-30 years? And all without actually enjoying the car. Sign me up.
A numbered plaque makes people think funny thoughts.
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $69,620.30
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $54,386.21
So... pretty much not much of an appreciation in value (if any at all).
http://www.coinnews.net/tools/cpi-inflation-calculator/
Just for the hell of it, I looked up the 1980 10th Anniversary 280zx that had all sorts of fancy special commemorative stuff. If you are unfamiliar with the car, here's a link: http://www.zhome.com/History/10thAnniv.htm
MSRP was right about $14,000, with 2010 dollars we get $37,040.70
Here's a link to one in immaculate shape listed for sale right now for $38,000 o.b.o.
http://www.oldride.com/sports_cars/571130.html
So what I can take from this is that if I had never done anything to my car and kept it all original (which is the condition it can be returned to within a day), hardly ever drive it to keep low miles on it, I might only lose the amount of money that I had to spend to insure it for 20-30 years? And all without actually enjoying the car. Sign me up.
A numbered plaque makes people think funny thoughts.
Oh wait - stupid me, I bought my Nismo relatively cheap with 233 miles and MSO - at roughly 68% of sticker. So at $35K, that's $24K for an E30 M3.If we use a $24,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $47,739.64
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $37,293.40
Either way, its really the more stupid arguement of the two.
Did anyone want to post
about learning to drive verses horsepower, suspension, and brakes?
lol so true.....i mean i see guys buy $300,000+ limited edition lambos and ferraris and send em off to be fully built and twin turbo'd straight from the dealer. is there anything wrong with that? not at all! to me cars (no matter how rare) are meant to be enjoyed by the owner however he/she wants.......
Ok - UNCLE - However, just staying even with inflation ain't too bad is it?
Oh wait - stupid me, I bought my Nismo relatively cheap with 233 miles and MSO - at roughly 68% of sticker. So at $35K, that's $24K for an E30 M3.
If we use a $24,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $47,739.64
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $37,293.40
Either way, its really the more stupid arguement of the two.
Did anyone want to post
about learning to drive verses horsepower, suspension, and brakes?
Oh wait - stupid me, I bought my Nismo relatively cheap with 233 miles and MSO - at roughly 68% of sticker. So at $35K, that's $24K for an E30 M3.If we use a $24,000 MSRP from 1986, in 2010 dollars we get $47,739.64
If we use a $35,000 MSRP from 1992, in 2010 dollars we get $37,293.40
Either way, its really the more stupid arguement of the two.
Did anyone want to post
about learning to drive verses horsepower, suspension, and brakes?My point was merely to suggest that anyone that makes the argument that the car will be worth more one day if kept in pristine condition, is a fool for worrying about what condition of car the NEXT owner will have.
lol so true.....i mean i see guys buy $300,000+ limited edition lambos and ferraris and send em off to be fully built and twin turbo'd straight from the dealer. is there anything wrong with that? not at all! to me cars (no matter how rare) are meant to be enjoyed by the owner however he/she wants.......
LOL @ this thread.
I have to agree though, for the average driver, there's not a lot to do with a Nismo to "improve" the car. I like power, and the car is a dog in stock form, so I will be making more power with mine, but I have no intention of taking it to a track other than for fun once or twice.
Lakeside's car makes a good example of a nicely modded Z, nismo or otherwise. I however don't see the point of getting a Nismo to later change wheels and suspension, might as well just get a touring for less money and go from there. IMO, the factory Nismo body kit is the best looking one out there though.
As to the value argument... that's retarded. Cars are meant to be enjoyed. I worked in a restoration shop for a bit. The money people spent was insane, to make an old or rare car exactly like new or better, whatever they wanted. The goal was so that they could DRIVE and ENJOY the car, not sell it for what they paid or more. Any nice, restored, original car that you see sell for a couple hundred grand, I guarantee you has more than that spent on it to make it that way. Cars are not an investement, it's about the value you place on the experience, and what a specific car is worth to a particular owner. That's the best way to look at it.
I love my nismo, and will mod it and drive it and enjoy it.
I have to agree though, for the average driver, there's not a lot to do with a Nismo to "improve" the car. I like power, and the car is a dog in stock form, so I will be making more power with mine, but I have no intention of taking it to a track other than for fun once or twice.
Lakeside's car makes a good example of a nicely modded Z, nismo or otherwise. I however don't see the point of getting a Nismo to later change wheels and suspension, might as well just get a touring for less money and go from there. IMO, the factory Nismo body kit is the best looking one out there though.
As to the value argument... that's retarded. Cars are meant to be enjoyed. I worked in a restoration shop for a bit. The money people spent was insane, to make an old or rare car exactly like new or better, whatever they wanted. The goal was so that they could DRIVE and ENJOY the car, not sell it for what they paid or more. Any nice, restored, original car that you see sell for a couple hundred grand, I guarantee you has more than that spent on it to make it that way. Cars are not an investement, it's about the value you place on the experience, and what a specific car is worth to a particular owner. That's the best way to look at it.
I love my nismo, and will mod it and drive it and enjoy it.


