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Old 11-21-2007, 05:10 PM
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So you're saying my A/F ratio will change?
Old 11-21-2007, 09:52 PM
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How much hp does your car make without the NOS?
Old 11-21-2007, 10:18 PM
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^^I think he is at about 280 without the pimp juice? From what I remember anyway, could be wrong, but he does have the dyno sheets. Car sounds like a damn track car, it's super load and deep no rattle snake sound or anything just real deep and loud sounds mean as hell.
Old 11-21-2007, 10:34 PM
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^^^ Thanks again. And yeah, without the juice I'm at 276RWHP on 91Oct.
Old 11-26-2007, 04:51 AM
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How is it that you made less torque than HP on the juice?????????
Old 11-26-2007, 11:44 AM
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From most of the graphs that I've seen, that seems to be normal. I haven't seen many, if any, graphs of people making more tq than hp... unless it's some deisel truck.
Old 11-27-2007, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nastyboy
So you're saying my A/F ratio will change?
the overall net result is everything changes - the ipw, the ignition advance, and as a result, the overall AFR changes as well. There are very few modern cars where an SAFC truly works long term. Without "hard coding" the ecu to a different set of variables, you end up forever making adjustments just to keep things the same. These differences are not apparant without a really good datalogger and a dyno to watch the various values.
Old 11-27-2007, 09:46 AM
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^+1 BTW.............. I don't drive a diesel truck.
Old 11-28-2007, 10:10 AM
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Neither do I and my graphs show 363hp with 409TQ... Something is obviously wrong with the graph or the tune... Every N20 setup makes more TQ than HP
Old 11-28-2007, 07:54 PM
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Without having this turn into a pissing match (as it seems its already heading that way).... most graphs that I've seen normally have higher Hp numbers than Tq.

However, if you guys are telling me there's something wrong, then what is it? I'm assuming your comments are based on experience, so help us who don't know.... what is wrong and why should Tq be higher than Hp?
Old 11-29-2007, 02:20 AM
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Wow, that car sounds badass, congrats on the good #.
Old 11-29-2007, 06:58 AM
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N20 delivers more torque than hp. So say a 100 shot gives you 100hp, it will give you 130-150TQ... i have never seen a N20 setup on a Z that delivers more Hp than TQ... Just ask the nitrous guru's on here... Something sounds wrong... Might be the dyno
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I don't think anything is wrong, it's just the way his tuner set him up. With tweaking, I'm no tuner, but you can get much different numbers for sure. Noz is Noz, doesn't matter who's kit you buy, but what does really matter is to whom you bring it to for a tune. You know where my loyalty lies.
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I contact "GOD" on this thread. Maybe he can shed some light because I liked to know myself.
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Originally Posted by Nastyboy
Without having this turn into a pissing match (as it seems its already heading that way).... most graphs that I've seen normally have higher Hp numbers than Tq.

However, if you guys are telling me there's something wrong, then what is it? I'm assuming your comments are based on experience, so help us who don't know.... what is wrong and why should Tq be higher than Hp?
the lack of tuning/engine mgmt. You're trying to use a tiny bandaid to heal an open wound
Old 11-29-2007, 07:32 AM
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simply put is that nitrous allows you to burn A LOT more fuel effectively in lower rpms, it increase exponentially as you lower the rpms. this creates a higher tq number than hp on almost every nitrous run i have seen as long as the car has a normal rpm range from say 2000-8000. horsepower and torque always cross at 5252 and the number for tq should read lower and go down after that number everytime.


a lot of the lower number has to do with the fall of bottle pressure as well, you can lose anywhere from 50-200 psi on a long 5th gear pull on a dyno depending on the setup.
Old 11-29-2007, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Nastyboy
Without having this turn into a pissing match (as it seems its already heading that way).... most graphs that I've seen normally have higher Hp numbers than Tq.

However, if you guys are telling me there's something wrong, then what is it? I'm assuming your comments are based on experience, so help us who don't know.... what is wrong and why should Tq be higher than Hp?

do you have a nitrous maximizer or anything controlling the nitrous to let it hit a little softer than normal. can you post up your graph.
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He has spoken!!!!
Old 11-29-2007, 10:12 AM
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Hell, my 150 shot(which is like a 100 shot with NX) was 360hp/410trq.

The graph looks strange is all...
Old 11-29-2007, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
the lack of tuning/engine mgmt. You're trying to use a tiny bandaid to heal an open wound

That helped a lot... so informative...


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