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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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This is only true if the state law is less restrictive. California, Oregon and Washington have passed laws more strict than federal laws. Probably other states too. The Feds establish a minimum, not a maximum when it comes to emissions.

I don't like having the front plate either, but I'm afraid being stopped for that might lead to other things.
Yeah, I'm gonna put the front plate back on, just so I don't give an on-coming cop a reason to u-turn and sweat a brotha..

If a cop gets behind me and decides to pull me over for exhaust, I'll just pull out the EPA paperwork to baffle him.

When the summer's over, and the weather turns crappy again, the car's goin' down for winter projects, and I'm movin' to Atlanta in April. No worries.
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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I'm definitely not a big fan of a lot of the local cops. Some are very cool, but most (at least the ones you get pulled over by) seldom are. I mean seriously, did they become police officers to check for muffler infractions? Is the lack of a front license plate really that much of a risk for the safety of society? The side of the car says "To Serve and Protect" not "Pursue and Harass".

I understand that not having a front plate gives them a legitimate reason to pull you over if they want to check and see if you're drunk or if you have warrants or something. But why do they have to be jerks about it?
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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I think you're missing Triple8Sol's point. The OP is talking about his GT-R33 Skyline. Not a Z with a turbo kit nor the future GT-R.

My point still stands even concerning the older R-series Skylines.

The onyl reason why some of the Skylines are legal in the U.S. is because of the MASSIVE detuning they had to go through in order to be CARB compliant. I also know that they had to crash a bunch of the Skylines in government tests just so that they could be officialyl approved by the Department of Trans.

You ever wonder why a Skyline that you could get in Japan for $30k gets sold for $90k used???? I just stated the reasons above.

Lastly, I lived only 3 minutes away from the leading and probably only company that got the Skyline imported legally, MotoRex. I visited there shop a few times and saw about 4 Skylines there. I was hoping they could do my motor swap on my Snetra but they were incredibly pricey. Last I know, the government forced the company to shut down and the President of MotoRex is now under prosecution or legal trouble. Another thing I read is the possibility of all detuned and street legal Skylines to have their registrations rescinded as a result of MotoRex's collapse.

I am not sure if this has gone though already but if it has, there will be no such thing as a street legal Skyline.

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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by purple pashin
I have a '95 GT-R. Not a Z.

I see. Thought you had a Z but none-the-less, read my above post. Maybe you can shed light on it. Was your GTR imported by MotoRex?
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pacfwu
I'm definitely not a big fan of a lot of the local cops. Some are very cool, but most (at least the ones you get pulled over by) seldom are. I mean seriously, did they become police officers to check for muffler infractions? Is the lack of a front license plate really that much of a risk for the safety of society? The side of the car says "To Serve and Protect" not "Pursue and Harass".

I understand that not having a front plate gives them a legitimate reason to pull you over if they want to check and see if you're drunk or if you have warrants or something. But why do they have to be jerks about it?
Agreed.

They should put "To Punish and Enslave" on the sides like on Barracade!.
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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I found out that the tickets that Highway Patrol gives out pays directly for training and most of the equipment that the officers use int he field so there is extra inncentive for CHP to give tickets and it shows. Typically, CHP pull cars over for EVERYTHING and they rarely let you go!
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
I see. Thought you had a Z but none-the-less, read my above post. Maybe you can shed light on it. Was your GTR imported by MotoRex?
No. I used G&K.

Motorex was in the process of getting investigated, and shut down by the DOT. G&K was the company that was doing the EPA conversion work for Motorex. Plus, I had heard enough horror stories of Motorex messin' people over to steer me away from them. The whole Motorex story would make for a great cult documentary.

Motorex was basically shut down for attempting to legalize all 3 models of Skylines (R32, R33, R34) under just one model's, (R33) crash test data. 32's and 34's were never crash tested. The DOT recinded the original petition, and changed it to only '96-98 Skylines to be eligible for importation. However, there is no official OBD2 system for Skylines, so it is in essence illegal to import Skylines now. Mine, and all the other cars in limbo at the time were grandfathered and waived.

My car is technically 49 state legal, because I chose not to pay for the additional CARB certification, being that I don't plan on living in Cali again.


Incidentally, I rode all the way from Santa Ana, CA to Washington state with a Japanese plate with no problems. Go figure!!

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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by purple pashin
No. I used G&K. Motorex was in the process of getting investigated, and shut down by the DOT. G&K was the company that was doing the EPA conversion work for Motorex.

Plus, I had heard enough horror stories of Motorex messin' people over to steer me away from them.

Incidentally, I rode all the way from Santa Ana, CA to Washington state with a Japanese plate with no problems. Go figure!!

Dude, yeah. I highly suggest you carry ALL of your paper work with you even if its big enough to fill-up a suitcase and lastly, just put your plate on. It won't make that much of a difference unless you find yourself making a wrong turn and end-up in a JGTC race!!!
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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This Blu_Blur guy cracks me up...
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
My point still stands even concerning the older R-series Skylines.

The onyl reason why some of the Skylines are legal in the U.S. is because of the MASSIVE detuning they had to go through in order to be CARB compliant. I also know that they had to crash a bunch of the Skylines in government tests just so that they could be officialyl approved by the Department of Trans.

You ever wonder why a Skyline that you could get in Japan for $30k gets sold for $90k used???? I just stated the reasons above.

Lastly, I lived only 3 minutes away from the leading and probably only company that got the Skyline imported legally, MotoRex. I visited there shop a few times and saw about 4 Skylines there. I was hoping they could do my motor swap on my Snetra but they were incredibly pricey. Last I know, the government forced the company to shut down and the President of MotoRex is now under prosecution or legal trouble. Another thing I read is the possibility of all detuned and street legal Skylines to have their registrations rescinded as a result of MotoRex's collapse.

I am not sure if this has gone though already but if it has, there will be no such thing as a street legal Skyline.
Uh, I actually know all that.
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
This Blu_Blur guy cracks me up...
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pacfwu
Uh, I actually know all that.

Refreshers never hurt anyone.
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
Refreshers never hurt anyone.
Fair enough. Since we're on the topic of things that have nothing to do with the topic, DeLoreans are only made in silver because they are not painted. They are made of stainless steel so they don't need primer/paint to protect against rust..
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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popcorn anyone?
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
You ever wonder why a Skyline that you could get in Japan for $30k gets sold for $90k used???? I just stated the reasons above.
Depreciation has bottomed out on many GTR models, even in Japan. I could easily get at least 40K for my car in Japan, and much more here.

Hakosuka GTR's hover between 40-60K in Japan now.
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pacfwu
Fair enough. Since we're on the topic of things that have nothing to do with the topic, DeLoreans are only made in silver because they are not painted. They are made of stainless steel so they don't need primer/paint to protect against rust..

I did not know that!

*Now you Know Star flies over my head*

(atleast I kept it to the same car in-topic)
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
The onyl reason why some of the Skylines are legal in the U.S. is because of the MASSIVE detuning they had to go through in order to be CARB compliant.
CARB = California Air Resoruces Board....doesn't apply to all states, only Cali. That's why some cars and products are called "49 state legal".
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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While we're on the subject of California, did you know that their Mega Millions lottery is currently at $105 million, which means you could buy between 1750 - 2625 Hakosuka GTR's?

(atleast I kept it to the same car in-topic)
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yah imports get rolled on for the stupidest ****... atleast you didnt get a ticket!
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pacfwu
Fair enough. Since we're on the topic of things that have nothing to do with the topic, DeLoreans are only made in silver because they are not painted. They are made of stainless steel so they don't need primer/paint to protect against rust..

I like red deloreans.
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